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On 8 Sep 2006 12:25:39 -0700, Bob G <> wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> The ONLY three choices in a digital camera are Nikon, Nikon, or Nikon.
>> Make sure it is at least five megapixels.
>>
>
>
> Absolute nonsense offered with great authority.
>
> There must be dozens of high-quality, reliable cameras that fit your
> bill - go to a camera store with your list of requirements. Electronic
> outlets are probably not too savvy about cameras. Try Consumer Reports
> also - your local library has it if you're not a subscriber.
>
> The higher the megapixels the larger your files and the longer it takes
> to upload them to eBay. Five megapixels I'd say would be tops for
> high-speed connections.

I use xv to quickly edit images (usually under 5 seconds per image),
and optimize them, that usually shortens them to less than 100 kB. I
do not upload images to eBay, I host them myself.

> You should not spend more than $300 on a camera if all you want to do
> is shoot for eBay.

Well, taking family style pictures would also be its job. My main
concern about buying cheap cameras is that they may not be as sturdy
and long lasting as the better built ones.

i

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:33:04 -0400, Tony Cooper
<> wrote:

>Lighting doesn't affect focussing,

Yes it does. Most digicams have problems auto-focusing in low light.

jc

--

"The nice thing about a mare is you get to ride a lot
of different horses without having to own that many."
~ Eileen Morgan of The Mare's Nest, PA

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 19:17:06 GMT, Ignoramus9765
<> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:09:48 -0400, Tony Cooper <> wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:54:57 GMT, Ignoramus9765
>><> wrote:
>>
>>>> You left out price, and that leaves the topic too wide open.
>>>
>>>I would say under $700, $800 at most.
>>>
>>>> Lighting doesn't affect focussing, but lighting does affect whether or
>>>> not you can see in the viewfinder or LCD screen if you are in focus.
>>>
>>>My camera has troubles focusing in less that great amount of light.
>>
>> Actually, I misspoke. In very poor lighting, spot focussing can't
>> find anything to focus on. However, that's lighting so poor that you
>> wouldn't take a picture under those conditions.
>>
>> I wouldn't worry about focussing based on light. Be more concerned
>> about figuring out how to illuminate your object properly. Some cheap
>> clip-on reflector lamps and setting your camera's white balance to
>> incandescent illumination can solve that problem. You haven't said
>> anything about taking candid shots under poor lighting
>
>Well, if the camera could focus in poor lighting, it could take a
>picture using its flash. Thus saving me time and having those clip on
>lights etc.

But you would be going about it wrong. Flash creates problems as well
as solving problems. It washes out some images, it creates glare and
high spots, it creates distracting shadows, and - when you depend on
flash - you can't visualize what you what your how your photograph
will come out. It sucks battery power.

External lighting allows you to "pose" your object. It reveals what
the camera will see. It doesn't lead to surprises like shadows and
glare spots.

When you compare time, you have to consider the time it takes to
re-shoot if the first image doesn't look right.

>>>Understood. Does same apply to real professional cameras?
>>
>> At $700, I wouldn't think you are in the "professional" range. The
>> professionals using digital are using digital SLRs with entry level
>> pricing at over a grand.
>
>Tony, what about those Nikon D70* cameras, do they have both manual
>and auto focus?

Sure. But Ritz lists the D70 at $1,236 with a lens. Those cheaper
prices you see are for body only and no card.




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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Honestly i have gone thru 5 cameras the last 8 years. They last me about 2
years at most and then i'm ready for new technology since so much stuff has
changed or companies scraped ideas and went a different direction. Nikon
seems to be's everyones pick. My last one was a Sony 7megapixel and it is
great except for no zoom really. For Ebay is is really good though all
around. Their new one that just come out has same features but just about
15% more to play with. Canon's bew 8mgpxl looks appealing but haven't used
but QVC & HSN have had them for $400. Just buy 1 keep the receipt and if you
don't like it take it back.

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:12:05 -0400, Tony Cooper <> wrote:
>>Well, if the camera could focus in poor lighting, it could take a
>>picture using its flash. Thus saving me time and having those clip on
>>lights etc.
>
> But you would be going about it wrong. Flash creates problems as well
> as solving problems. It washes out some images, it creates glare and
> high spots, it creates distracting shadows, and - when you depend on
> flash - you can't visualize what you what your how your photograph
> will come out. It sucks battery power.

It actually works well for the majority of things that I sell, though
I agree that sometimes it is difficult to work with.

I need to use flash, no doubt about that.

>>>>Understood. Does same apply to real professional cameras?
>>>
>>> At $700, I wouldn't think you are in the "professional" range. The
>>> professionals using digital are using digital SLRs with entry level
>>> pricing at over a grand.
>>
>>Tony, what about those Nikon D70* cameras, do they have both manual
>>and auto focus?
>
> Sure. But Ritz lists the D70 at $1,236 with a lens. Those cheaper
> prices you see are for body only and no card.

Well, seems like tehre is a great variation in prices. I do not know
enough to tell if there are any hidden deficiencies, but check out
ebay item 160024982688, camera plus two lenses plus microdrive, all
for $959 (which, I know is more than I indicated). Again, it may have
a hidden gotcha, but the seller's feedback is decent.

i

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:28:21 GMT, pkstore2 <> wrote:
>
> Honestly i have gone thru 5 cameras the last 8 years. They last me about 2
> years at most and then i'm ready for new technology since so much stuff has
> changed or companies scraped ideas and went a different direction. Nikon
> seems to be's everyones pick. My last one was a Sony 7megapixel and it is
> great except for no zoom really. For Ebay is is really good though all
> around. Their new one that just come out has same features but just about
> 15% more to play with. Canon's bew 8mgpxl looks appealing but haven't used
> but QVC & HSN have had them for $400. Just buy 1 keep the receipt and if you
> don't like it take it back.

Your cameras, did they fall apart from use? What was the reason for
replacement?

i

Ignoramus9765 wrote:

> My current Fuji camera is showing suspicious signs that may be
> indicative that it will not last much longer.

Using anything other than a Nikon D2x for your eBay pics is totally and
utterly foolish. If you're just starting out on eBay you can squeak by with
an entry lever Nikon D200.







Rita

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 17:04:31 -0400, Rita Ä Berkowitz <> wrote:
> Ignoramus9765 wrote:
>
>> My current Fuji camera is showing suspicious signs that may be
>> indicative that it will not last much longer.
>
> Using anything other than a Nikon D2x for your eBay pics is totally and
> utterly foolish. If you're just starting out on eBay you can squeak by with
> an entry lever Nikon D200.

Too expensive, sorry.

i

In article <SkjMg.204$_>,
Ignoramus9765 <> wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:09:48 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <> wrote:
> > On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:54:57 GMT, Ignoramus9765
> ><> wrote:
> >
> >>> You left out price, and that leaves the topic too wide open.
> >>
> >>I would say under $700, $800 at most.
> >>
> >>> Lighting doesn't affect focussing, but lighting does affect whether or
> >>> not you can see in the viewfinder or LCD screen if you are in focus.
> >>
> >>My camera has troubles focusing in less that great amount of light.
> >
> > Actually, I misspoke. In very poor lighting, spot focussing can't
> > find anything to focus on. However, that's lighting so poor that you
> > wouldn't take a picture under those conditions.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry about focussing based on light. Be more concerned
> > about figuring out how to illuminate your object properly. Some cheap
> > clip-on reflector lamps and setting your camera's white balance to
> > incandescent illumination can solve that problem. You haven't said
> > anything about taking candid shots under poor lighting
>
> Well, if the camera could focus in poor lighting, it could take a
> picture using its flash. Thus saving me time and having those clip on
> lights etc.
>
> >>>>5) Be relatively abuse proof
> >>>
> >>> Digitals are not as sturdy as the old SLR cameras. That's an
> >>> across-the-board statement. When you have an LCD screen and a lens
> >>> that moves in and out, you have components that don't take a lot of
> >>> abuse. The life expectancy of a digital camera is far less than life
> >>> expectancy of a SLR. (I'm not speaking of Digital SLRS, but the older
> >>> SLRs.)
> >>
> >>Understood. Does same apply to real professional cameras?
> >
> > At $700, I wouldn't think you are in the "professional" range. The
> > professionals using digital are using digital SLRs with entry level
> > pricing at over a grand.
>
> Tony, what about those Nikon D70* cameras, do they have both manual
> and auto focus?
>
> i

I use a D70. Manual and auto. A superb camera.

--
Kurt

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Ignoramus9765 wrote:

>> Using anything other than a Nikon D2x for your eBay pics is totally
>> and utterly foolish. If you're just starting out on eBay you can
>> squeak by with an entry lever Nikon D200.
>
> Too expensive, sorry.

Nonsense! A D2x(s) pays for itself in three months or less with your
increased eBay sales. If funding is tight you can get the New Nikon D80 or
a used D70(s) for next to nothing.






Rita