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See:
http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577

I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.

Ian

Digital Photography Now

http://dpnow.com

In article <2QUIg.19415$_>, Digital
Photography Now <> wrote:

> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.

If it carries the Sigma name, you know it's gotta be crap.

Hi Randall.
Bye Randall


Randall Ainsworth schreef:

> In article <2QUIg.19415$_>, Digital
> Photography Now <> wrote:
>
> > I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> > have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
>
> If it carries the Sigma name, you know it's gotta be crap.

Digital Photography Now wrote:
> See:
> http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
>
> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
>
> Ian
>
> Digital Photography Now
>
> http://dpnow.com
>
>
I wonder how many megapixels. I Sigma up to 5 now?

Digital Photography Now wrote:
> See:
> http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
>
> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
>
> Ian
>
> Digital Photography Now
>
> http://dpnow.com

No Asian company would use "14" in their model number.

Eric Miller wrote:
> Digital Photography Now wrote:
> > See:
> > http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
> >
> > I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> > have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > Digital Photography Now
> >
> > http://dpnow.com
> >
> >
> I wonder how many megapixels. I Sigma up to 5 now?

Maybe, but a Foveon 5 megapixel chip would be sharper than a Bayer 10
MP. I hope - if this is really the new SD14 - that Sigma got it right
this time. The Foveon chip is a pretty cool technology.

-Gniewko

wrote:
> Eric Miller wrote:
>> Digital Photography Now wrote:
>>> See:
>>> http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
>>>
>>> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
>>> have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> Digital Photography Now
>>>
>>> http://dpnow.com
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder how many megapixels. I Sigma up to 5 now?
>
> Maybe, but a Foveon 5 megapixel chip would be sharper than a Bayer 10
> MP.

That's the theory anyway. In practice, the 3Mp SD9/10 was much worse
than 6 Mp Bayer based SLRs. The imagined sharpness of the SD9/10 came at
the expense of inaccurate rendering of diagonal edges and thin lines,
and sometimes moiré effects.

Has Foveon solved the silicon color separation contamination issues that
plagued the SD9 and SD10 with color accuracy problems? Have they solved
the noise issues? Did they add an anti-aliasing filter?

Did they come up with a better Li-Ion battery solution than two RCRV3
batteries in series?

Did they fix the viewfinder?

You've got to believe that Sigma and Foveon would not attempt another
digital SLR unless they really have solved all the issues that caused
the SD9 and SD10 to flop.

The SD14 could find a niche market at the low end, competing against the
D50, Rebel XT, and Sony A100, if they price it around $600.

SMS wrote:
> wrote:
> > Eric Miller wrote:
> >> Digital Photography Now wrote:
> >>> See:
> >>> http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
> >>>
> >>> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems to
> >>> have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
> >>>
> >>> Ian
> >>>
> >>> Digital Photography Now
> >>>
> >>> http://dpnow.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I wonder how many megapixels. I Sigma up to 5 now?
> >
> > Maybe, but a Foveon 5 megapixel chip would be sharper than a Bayer 10
> > MP.
>
> That's the theory anyway. In practice, the 3Mp SD9/10 was much worse
> than 6 Mp Bayer based SLRs. The imagined sharpness of the SD9/10 came at
> the expense of inaccurate rendering of diagonal edges and thin lines,
> and sometimes moiré effects.

Yup, exactly. That's why I said that I hope they got it right this
time.

> (snip)
>
> The SD14 could find a niche market at the low end, competing against the
> D50, Rebel XT, and Sony A100, if they price it around $600.

Well, that depends on the detailed specs of the camera, no? There is
nothing inherently superior about Bayer chips that make them more
suited to high-end cameras than Foveon chips. In fact, quite the
opposite may be true. Just because Sigma screwed it up with the SD9 and
SD10 and gave Foveon chips a bad rep, that doesn't mean that they can't
get it right this time.

Or maybe I'm just too optimistic...

-Gniewko

wrote:

> Or maybe I'm just too optimistic...

I would tend to think that you're too optimistic. If Foveon had solved
the problems with their sensors, then they would have been able to find
a first or second tier SLR maker to use them in a product, rather than
having to go with Sigma.

Even if the SD14 is a great body, you still have the issue of the
quality of the Sigma lenses. Unless Sigma moved to a Canon or Nikon
mount. The SD14 may find a niche at the very low end, if it's priced
right, but the people buying the low end cameras would probably be even
more wary about buying such a camera.

"SMS" <> wrote in message
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> Digital Photography Now wrote:
>> See:
>> http://dpnow.com/bb/news.pl?rev=577
>>
>> I think it looks rather nice. Hope it has JPEG in-camera now - it seems
>> to have a white balance mode selector, which points to in-camera JPEG.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> Digital Photography Now
>>
>> http://dpnow.com
>
> No Asian company would use "14" in their model number.

Wrong:

http://www.sigma-sd14.com/

This is the "teaser" site from Sigma.