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"Richard Tomkins" <> wrote in message
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> Want to purchase some Enron stock?

OK, I'll sell my WorldCom stock to cover it.

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:06:30 +0100, "Graculus"
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>"Bill Funk" <> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:59:28 +0100, "Graculus"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>"David" <> wrote in message
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>>>>I have nearly alwys found that the original lithium battery which comes
>>>> with my mobile phone or digital camera is better than any 3rd party
>>>> lookalike.
>>>
>>>Sony?
>>>
>>>Oh, maybe not, unless you like the smell of a real fire.
>>>
>> Interestingly, Sony provided the batteries for both Dell and Apple,
>> and a lot of those have been recalled.
>> The Sony batteries used in Sony gear, though, have been reliable.
>> Sony, in recent years, has shown a shocking disregard for their
>> customers; yet they obviously have been able to supply themselves with
>> reliable batteries.
>> This could lead one to conclude they knew about the problems, and
>> steered affected product out of house.
>
>While I'm no fan of Sony, especially their rootkit installing BMG branch, I
>think that's a conspiracy theory too far. The batteries they make as OEM
>product for the likes of Dell and Apple will be manufactured only for them,
>as they have to physically fit whatever specifications Dell/Apple give them.
>

Sony knew.
http://channels.lockergnome.com/news...nths_ago.phtml
It was the manufacturing process that was going wrong, yet they
managed to have *their* batteries come out OK.
Gateway's next.
(Maybe.)
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Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Dennis Pogson wrote:
> David wrote:
>> I have nearly alwys found that the original lithium battery which
>> comes with my mobile phone or digital camera is better than any 3rd
>> party lookalike.
>>
>> My original Nokia battery significantly outperforms a lookalike even
>> though the lookalike claims almost 40% extra capacity.
>>
>> Similalry my digital camera's battery is better than the lookalikes I
>> have tried.
>>
>> Trouble is that original batteries cost a fortune to buy on their own.
>>
>> Which are the brands for decent lookalike lithiums?
>>
>> For example the NP-20 shown below.
>> http://www.batteriesplus.co.uk/acata...Casio_129.html
>
> I have found this firm to be excellent.
> http://www.battery-force.co.uk/index.html
>
>
I get my batteries off Ebay. Who cares how long they last. I carry a
bunch of them.

Richard Perry

"Richard Perry" <> wrote in message
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> I get my batteries off Ebay. Who cares how long they last. I carry a
> bunch of them.

IME the ones from eBay tend to be quite a bit lower performing than brand
names.

"Homer J Simpson" <> wrote in
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> "Richard Perry" <> wrote in message
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>> I get my batteries off Ebay. Who cares how long they last. I carry
>> a bunch of them.
>
> IME the ones from eBay tend to be quite a bit lower performing than
> brand names.
>

Then get brand name batteries off eBay. There are sellers of Duracell and
Procell alkalines, so probably also for lithium ion types. Many of these
large volume sellers are kosher, they're not pushing fakes, it only takes a
small amount of negative feedback to get them shut down, so the big sellers
don't do that, they rely on good stock, large volume and fast sales. You
get good batteries, because they don't sit on shelves getting old, and
you're not paying for the overheads that kind of storage costs, and
they're cheap to deliver straight to you, so it's a very good way to get
them.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:03:45 GMT, Richard Perry
<> wrote:

>Dennis Pogson wrote:
>> David wrote:
>>> I have nearly alwys found that the original lithium battery which
>>> comes with my mobile phone or digital camera is better than any 3rd
>>> party lookalike.
>>>
>>> My original Nokia battery significantly outperforms a lookalike even
>>> though the lookalike claims almost 40% extra capacity.
>>>
>>> Similalry my digital camera's battery is better than the lookalikes I
>>> have tried.
>>>
>>> Trouble is that original batteries cost a fortune to buy on their own.
>>>
>>> Which are the brands for decent lookalike lithiums?
>>>
>>> For example the NP-20 shown below.
>>> http://www.batteriesplus.co.uk/acata...Casio_129.html
>>
>> I have found this firm to be excellent.
>> http://www.battery-force.co.uk/index.html
>>
>>
>I get my batteries off Ebay. Who cares how long they last. I carry a
>bunch of them.

Beware of cheap batteries. I managed to ruin a Seiko watch with a
cheap battery that leaked.

"Richard Perry" <> wrote in message
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> Dennis Pogson wrote:
>> David wrote:
>>> I have nearly alwys found that the original lithium battery which
>>> comes with my mobile phone or digital camera is better than any 3rd
>>> party lookalike.
>>>
>>> My original Nokia battery significantly outperforms a lookalike even
>>> though the lookalike claims almost 40% extra capacity.
>>>
>>> Similalry my digital camera's battery is better than the lookalikes I
>>> have tried.
>>>
>>> Trouble is that original batteries cost a fortune to buy on their own.
>>>
>>> Which are the brands for decent lookalike lithiums?


I've purchased 8-9 aftermarket Lithium rechargeables from several of the
bigger name online battery retailers-- ranging from the "cheap Charlies" to
the ones that charge 60% or so of the cost of factory-branded ones and are
supposed to have "Japanese cells."

My experience has been about the same with all of them. First I do several
charge/discharge cycles to condition them Then if I use them right after I
charge them, they're OK-- usually giving about 75-80% capacity of the
factory battery.

However, if I let them sit a few weeks after charging before using them,
they've self-discharged much faster than the factory batts. They're pretty
much useless if I don't top them up before use.

That's my experience YMMV.

Butch

"Butch Haynes" <> wrote in message
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> "Richard Perry" <> wrote in message
> news:5fA3h.2460$ m...
>> Dennis Pogson wrote:
>>> David wrote:
>>>> I have nearly alwys found that the original lithium battery which
>>>> comes with my mobile phone or digital camera is better than any 3rd
>>>> party lookalike.
>>>>
>>>> My original Nokia battery significantly outperforms a lookalike even
>>>> though the lookalike claims almost 40% extra capacity.
>>>>
>>>> Similalry my digital camera's battery is better than the lookalikes I
>>>> have tried.
>>>>
>>>> Trouble is that original batteries cost a fortune to buy on their
>>>> own.
>>>>
>>>> Which are the brands for decent lookalike lithiums?
>
>
> I've purchased 8-9 aftermarket Lithium rechargeables from several of the
> bigger name online battery retailers-- ranging from the "cheap Charlies"
> to the ones that charge 60% or so of the cost of factory-branded ones
> and are supposed to have "Japanese cells."
>
> My experience has been about the same with all of them. First I do
> several charge/discharge cycles to condition them Then if I use them
> right after I charge them, they're OK-- usually giving about 75-80%
> capacity of the factory battery.
>
> However, if I let them sit a few weeks after charging before using them,
> they've self-discharged much faster than the factory batts. They're
> pretty much useless if I don't top them up before use.
>
> That's my experience YMMV.
It is also worth being aware, that generally, higher capacity batteries
have higher 'self discharge' rates. A friend uses a lot for quite high
capacity applications, and the higher capacity cells give what they are
meant to, if used as soon as they are charged. However leave the batteries
for a week, and the lower capacity cells, then beat the 'high capacity'
models. This prbably relates to the behaviour reported above...
Panasonic, make generally good cells, that have proven for me to be
amongst the best.

Best Wishes