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It goes beyond competency. There are several factors at play when making a
decision about using recruiters or not. However, as a contractor, it is
often easier to find contracts through recruiters and brokers than on your
own. A good recruiter has contacts at multiple companies, and is often
informed in advance about the comanies' needs. When a good candidate comes
along, the good recruiter will also present the candidate's qualifications
to his or her contacts even if there are no immediate openings. Thus, the
"good" recruiter's recommendation may be the recommendation that the hiring
manager at least pays enough attention to interview the candidate.

And I believe the suggestion to contact recruiters was made to someone who
was looking for opportunities.

There is no right and wrong answer to this issue. What is right for one
company can be wrong for another. And there is a big difference betwqeen a
good recruiter and a bad recruiter.

Some bad recruiters indiscriminantly distributes all resumes to all
contacts. This can result in multiple submissions to the same company
(usually a no-no), expose the candidate to undesirable contacts resulting in
potential negative consideration for the candidate, and make the client
companies leery of candidates submitted by the "bad" recruiter(s). And some
recruiters just aren't very good. Either they don't understand enough of
what the customer wants, they are unable to judge the candidates, or they
juust don't have enough clout.

Regards,
Tore.


"Kline Sphere" <T> wrote in message
news:...
> >The use of recruiters is a matter of practicality and economics. Some
> >companies wouldn't dream of using a recruiter, and some companies use
them
> >almost exclusively. Just because you think it is ridiculous doesn't mean
it
> >always is, or that everybody agrees with your point of view.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> As I said if companies have money to burn or are too incompetent to go
> about the selection process in full, that's fine. The company I work
> for would never allow a third party to be involved in what amounts to
> the success and prosperity of the core business. Maybe that's why they
> have a very low staff turn around and are unaffected by the so called
> 'down turn' in IT.

As I keep saying, if companies have money to burn, that's fine!

It today's business world, companies are trying to cut costs at every
opportunity they can; one simple way is to cut out 'middle man' when
doing business (of any kind).

Surly as a 'contractor' you are good enough to build relationships
with your client's so as when future work comes long, they know of
you, who you are and what to expect from you. Thus if you're up to the
job, surely it's bests (and cheaper) to approach for the company to
approach you directly rather than go through whole process again,
taking the chances that go with it?


On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:10:22 -0400, "Tore Bostrup"
<newspost_at_bostrup.us> wrote:

>It goes beyond competency. There are several factors at play when making a
>decision about using recruiters or not. However, as a contractor, it is
>often easier to find contracts through recruiters and brokers than on your
>own. A good recruiter has contacts at multiple companies, and is often
>informed in advance about the comanies' needs. When a good candidate comes
>along, the good recruiter will also present the candidate's qualifications
>to his or her contacts even if there are no immediate openings. Thus, the
>"good" recruiter's recommendation may be the recommendation that the hiring
>manager at least pays enough attention to interview the candidate.
>
>And I believe the suggestion to contact recruiters was made to someone who
>was looking for opportunities.
>
>There is no right and wrong answer to this issue. What is right for one
>company can be wrong for another. And there is a big difference betwqeen a
>good recruiter and a bad recruiter.
>
>Some bad recruiters indiscriminantly distributes all resumes to all
>contacts. This can result in multiple submissions to the same company
>(usually a no-no), expose the candidate to undesirable contacts resulting in
>potential negative consideration for the candidate, and make the client
>companies leery of candidates submitted by the "bad" recruiter(s). And some
>recruiters just aren't very good. Either they don't understand enough of
>what the customer wants, they are unable to judge the candidates, or they
>juust don't have enough clout.
>
>Regards,
>Tore.
>
>
>"Kline Sphere" <T> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> >The use of recruiters is a matter of practicality and economics. Some
>> >companies wouldn't dream of using a recruiter, and some companies use
>them
>> >almost exclusively. Just because you think it is ridiculous doesn't mean
>it
>> >always is, or that everybody agrees with your point of view.
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>> As I said if companies have money to burn or are too incompetent to go
>> about the selection process in full, that's fine. The company I work
>> for would never allow a third party to be involved in what amounts to
>> the success and prosperity of the core business. Maybe that's why they
>> have a very low staff turn around and are unaffected by the so called
>> 'down turn' in IT.
>

>I once heard thru the grapevine of a company that had an open position that
>fit my skillset very well. I sent them a resume and received a polite
>refusal. Six weeks later they hired me thru a recruiter.

I found it the complete opposite. A friend of mine was put forward for
a role through an agency (in the uk), he also told me about the role,
so I too sent my CV to the agency. I heard nothing back from the
agency. When I called them I was told he would call back, he never did
nor did he reply to my emails, yet the role was still being advertised
on jobserve.

My friend never got the role, so I emailed my CV directly to the
company. I had a call back that afternoon, an interview the next day
and started the following Monday!

After I started I mentioned all this to the manager who confessed that
they were very upset by the service given by all the agencies they had
used. Now they no longer use agencies, even for non IT positions.

BTW, my friend now works there as well!