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I am rather new to digital photography. I love my Olympus 8080, but I
usually shoot in the JPG mode. I have experimented with the RAW mode
but refrain from using as it takes forever (10+ seconds) to save the
image to memory before the camera is ready for the next shot. More
often than not, I miss a really good shot while I am waiting, and the
opportunity is lost. Often my first shot of unposed events isn't the
best shot. Shooting JPG allows me to take several shots in the time it
requires for one RAW.

How do other 8080 owners handle this and is there any workaround?

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

In article <ecklein->,
says...
> I am rather new to digital photography. I love my Olympus 8080, but I
> usually shoot in the JPG mode. I have experimented with the RAW mode
> but refrain from using as it takes forever (10+ seconds) to save the
> image to memory before the camera is ready for the next shot. More
> often than not, I miss a really good shot while I am waiting, and the
> opportunity is lost. Often my first shot of unposed events isn't the
> best shot. Shooting JPG allows me to take several shots in the time it
> requires for one RAW.
>
> How do other 8080 owners handle this and is there any workaround?

No workaround, with the 8080 you have to wait 12 seconds if you shoot
RAW. An option would be to set the camera to Hi mode and shoot a
sequence of four (or five?) RAWs, to capture something moving fast, but
then you cannot use the camera for about one minute.

Personally I shoot exclusively RAW with my 8080, and ok, I have to wait
12 seconds within shots. But because of this, I think carefully before
pressing the shutter, so I end up with a higher percentage of "winning"
images, than other people who use cameras without this huge time between
shots.

Sometimes (but rarely) I switch temporarily back to JPG, to be able to
shoot faster.

On the other hand the 8080 has a *great* lens...
--

Alfred Molon
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
Olympus E500 resource - http://myolympus.org/E500/

If you are "rather new to digital photography" or if you are also
"rather new to photography".

If you are a serious photography who is switching to digital, there may
be some advantages to shooting in RAW and lots of people in this group
will expound on that.

However, if you are rather new to photography and still learning the
craft (and mostly taking snapshots as opposed to pictures intended for
serious display), then you are probably just as well suited shooting in
the largest of your jpg modes.

RAW will give you more control, no doubt, but many people don't need
that.

Here's my thinking. If you are comfortable using Photoshop or any
other editing program, then consider RAW. If you are just learning to
use a program (and the camera), stick to jpg. When you discover the
limits of jpg, then you will decide to change all by yourself. Until
then, jpg will do everything you want it to and get you the second
exposure.

In article <. com>,
"Pat" <> wrote:

> If you are "rather new to digital photography" or if you are also
> "rather new to photography".

Not new to photography, but not a serious professional at all.

> If you are a serious photography who is switching to digital, there may
> be some advantages to shooting in RAW and lots of people in this group
> will expound on that.
>
I know about the advantages of RAW, my question is about the slow frame
to frame speed of the 8080 and if there are any workarounds.

> However, if you are rather new to photography and still learning the
> craft (and mostly taking snapshots as opposed to pictures intended for
> serious display), then you are probably just as well suited shooting in
> the largest of your jpg modes.
>
> RAW will give you more control, no doubt, but many people don't need
> that.
>
> Here's my thinking. If you are comfortable using Photoshop or any
> other editing program, then consider RAW. If you are just learning to
> use a program (and the camera), stick to jpg. When you discover the
> limits of jpg, then you will decide to change all by yourself. Until
> then, jpg will do everything you want it to and get you the second
> exposure.

For the most part I agree, but there are some pictures that I have taken
that I wish were taken in RAW. I use Photoshop (elements 3) on almost
all of the pictures I take and find that there is much more control with
RAW. I like to take panoramas, but stick to JPG because RAW takes too
long, particularly when people are present.

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

In article <>,
Alfred Molon <> wrote:

> In article <ecklein->,
> says...
>
> > How do other 8080 owners handle this and is there any workaround?
>
> No workaround, with the 8080 you have to wait 12 seconds if you shoot
> RAW. An option would be to set the camera to Hi mode and shoot a
> sequence of four (or five?) RAWs, to capture something moving fast, but
> then you cannot use the camera for about one minute.

I have tried that. Shooting my grandson coming at me on a dirt bike
track at about 50MPH. Got a great shot out of about 5, but he went all
the way around the track before the camera was ready again.

>
> On the other hand the 8080 has a *great* lens...

No argument there -- that's the main reason I settled on that camera
when I was shopping.

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

Is there no buffer? I shoot the E-20 and get to take 4 shots before it has
to save....and I don't have to save all of them before I have to shoot
again. I hate the wait but have learned to live with it.

--
Thanks,
Gene Palmiter
(visit my photo gallery at http://palmiter.dotphoto.com)
freebridge design group

"Ernie Klein" <> wrote in message
news:ecklein-...
> In article <. com>,
> "Pat" <> wrote:
>
>> If you are "rather new to digital photography" or if you are also
>> "rather new to photography".
>
> Not new to photography, but not a serious professional at all.
>
>> If you are a serious photography who is switching to digital, there may
>> be some advantages to shooting in RAW and lots of people in this group
>> will expound on that.
>>
> I know about the advantages of RAW, my question is about the slow frame
> to frame speed of the 8080 and if there are any workarounds.
>
>> However, if you are rather new to photography and still learning the
>> craft (and mostly taking snapshots as opposed to pictures intended for
>> serious display), then you are probably just as well suited shooting in
>> the largest of your jpg modes.
>>
>> RAW will give you more control, no doubt, but many people don't need
>> that.
>>
>> Here's my thinking. If you are comfortable using Photoshop or any
>> other editing program, then consider RAW. If you are just learning to
>> use a program (and the camera), stick to jpg. When you discover the
>> limits of jpg, then you will decide to change all by yourself. Until
>> then, jpg will do everything you want it to and get you the second
>> exposure.
>
> For the most part I agree, but there are some pictures that I have taken
> that I wish were taken in RAW. I use Photoshop (elements 3) on almost
> all of the pictures I take and find that there is much more control with
> RAW. I like to take panoramas, but stick to JPG because RAW takes too
> long, particularly when people are present.
>
> --
> -Ernie-
>
> "There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
> suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."
>
> Have you done your backup today?

I don't think there are any workarounds, short of making sure you have
the fastest possible media card. That can make a difference.

Otherwise, maybe you should shoot jpg for people and switch over to RAW
for panorama where you things are happening as quickly.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:18:02 GMT, Ernie Klein wrote:

>> No workaround, with the 8080 you have to wait 12 seconds if you shoot
>> RAW. An option would be to set the camera to Hi mode and shoot a
>> sequence of four (or five?) RAWs, to capture something moving fast, but
>> then you cannot use the camera for about one minute.
>
> I have tried that. Shooting my grandson coming at me on a dirt bike
> track at about 50MPH. Got a great shot out of about 5, but he went all
> the way around the track before the camera was ready again.

Don't you know that for those kinds of shots you need what's known
in the industry as a "kiddie-cam"? Although I don't shoot RAW
I just timed taking a couple dozen shots with my Fuji S5100 and the
delay between shots was 3.5 seconds, in just barely adequate light,
which might have slowed down focusing a bit. I wouldn't be
surprised if the newer Canon A610 was faster. Of course neither
will produce photos of the quality that the C-8080 can attain, but
if you limit the prints to 8" x 10" or slightly larger, you don't
have to use the much bigger and heavier C-8080.


>>> How do other 8080 owners handle this and is there any workaround?

It's a camera limitation, and the usual workaround starts by
examining DSLR spec's.

In article <JkOFf.3101$_I4.2939@trndny02>,
"Gene Palmiter" <> wrote:

> Is there no buffer? I shoot the E-20 and get to take 4 shots before it has
> to save....and I don't have to save all of them before I have to shoot
> again. I hate the wait but have learned to live with it.
>
Actually, yes, there does appear to be a buffer that will hold (up) to 5
RAW images, *if* you shoot in the sequence mode. In fact, that
capability is what prompted my question about a possible workaround for
faster shooting. If the camera is capable of buffering 5 RAW images
when *it* is triggering the shutter, why can't it also buffer 5 images
when *I* choose to trigger the shutter? I was hoping for some way to do
that, but I guess they chose not to offer it even thought the camera
seems to contain all the necessary components.

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

does it really in the 8080

I have one too


"Pat" <> wrote in message
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>I don't think there are any workarounds, short of making sure you have
> the fastest possible media card. That can make a difference.
>
> Otherwise, maybe you should shoot jpg for people and switch over to RAW
> for panorama where you things are happening as quickly.
>