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rutman
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      03-19-2005
hi fellow cannoners!


could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?

thanks!!!

Please go EZ on me, i am a hardcore noo-b, so i am starting to learn
digital photography , iso, and the such! "

thanks everyone!
 
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Mike
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      03-19-2005

"rutman" <> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> hi fellow cannoners!
>
>
> could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
> speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?
>
> thanks!!!
>
> Please go EZ on me, i am a hardcore noo-b, so i am starting to learn
> digital photography , iso, and the such! "
>
> thanks everyone!



Here are my settings:
http://dhost.info/photocanon/sigma/c...m?size=1&exif=

But it could depend on the weather (mist, no mist, low on the horizon, high,
etc...)

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Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
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      03-20-2005
>could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
>speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?


By and large, at ISO 100, f/16 at 1/125 is good for daylight, and f/8
or f/11 is good for the moon. But you have a dSLR. Start with f/8,
1/125 and ISO 100. See what you get. Take it from there. The moon
isn't going anywhere.

-Joel

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David Littlewood
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      03-20-2005
In article <j51%d.71157$>, Mike
<> writes
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>"rutman" <> a écrit dans le message de news:
>...
>> hi fellow cannoners!
>>
>>
>> could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
>> speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?
>>
>> thanks!!!
>>
>> Please go EZ on me, i am a hardcore noo-b, so i am starting to learn
>> digital photography , iso, and the such! "
>>
>> thanks everyone!

>
>
>Here are my settings:
>http://dhost.info/photocanon/sigma/c...m?size=1&exif=
>
>But it could depend on the weather (mist, no mist, low on the horizon, high,
>etc...)
>

Nice picture.

To Rutman - the useful message from Mike's picture is that the moon is
just a piece of rock being illuminated by the sun just like the earth -
and it's at (approximately) the same distance from the sun as we are.
Thus the exposure for the moon is similar to that for a daylight picture
of something close to you, with perhaps a slight increase to allow for
the atmospheric conditions here. Mike's picture is about one stop less
than would be "normal" for a picture at ISO 100 in bright sunlight here
on earth.

David
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rutman
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      03-20-2005
thanks guys!!!!

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:00:11 GMT, (Dr. Joel M. Hoffman)
wrote:

>>could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
>>speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?

>
>By and large, at ISO 100, f/16 at 1/125 is good for daylight, and f/8
>or f/11 is good for the moon. But you have a dSLR. Start with f/8,
>1/125 and ISO 100. See what you get. Take it from there. The moon
>isn't going anywhere.
>
>-Joel
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      03-20-2005
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:19:46 GMT, rutman <> wrote:

>hi fellow cannoners!
>
>
>could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
>speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?


Read about the "sunny F16 rule"; it applies for moon shots as well.


 
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      03-20-2005
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>On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:19:46 GMT, rutman <> wrote:


>>hi fellow cannoners!


>>could someone please let me know the best settings in term of shutter
>>speed and iso to take a cool moon shot?


>Read about the "sunny F16 rule"; it applies for moon shots as well.


I would never shoot the moon like that, literally, with a DSLR; it will
always be too dark.

First of all, the moon loses light through diffusion, which objects on
the ground do not experience in the same way. A distant mountain loses
light going through the same amount of atmosphere, but what is lost is
replaced by the light that diffuses from the sky and adjacent mountains,
so there is no real net loss of light level, just a loss of contrast.
The moon loses to the night sky around it, and gains nothing back from
its surroundings.

Also, exposure depends on your workflow. If you shoot RAW and want the
best possible capture, you will "overexpose" just short of clipping its
white spots. If you shoot JPEGs that go straight to the printer, then,
of course, you can't "overexpose".

In the clearest of (NYC-area, not New Mexico) skies, shooting RAW, I
have used "sunny f/8" on a high moon, without blowing highlights.
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      03-20-2005
In article <>,
wrote:

> >Read about the "sunny F16 rule"; it applies for moon shots as well.

>
> I would never shoot the moon like that, literally, with a DSLR; it will
> always be too dark.


It depends on the phase and the height in the sky. Only a full moon at
it's zenith follows the sunny f16 rule. A setting quarter moon or
crescent is a completely different story.

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Dr. Joel M. Hoffman
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      03-20-2005
>> >Read about the "sunny F16 rule"; it applies for moon shots as well.
>>
>> I would never shoot the moon like that, literally, with a DSLR; it will
>> always be too dark.

>
>It depends on the phase and the height in the sky. Only a full moon at
>it's zenith follows the sunny f16 rule. A setting quarter moon or
>crescent is a completely different story.


The only reason it's so hard to get the moon right is that it's
usually too small to meter correctly with a built-in light meter.

But with a digital camera, you have the luxury of trying a bunch of
settings and seeing which ones worked. As long as your camera has a
fairly accurate review mode, with some indication of overexposure,
you're set. Take a shot, review it, see if it's too light or too
dark, and if it is, try again. (Or take 15 shots, and check when you
get home.)

-Joel

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      03-20-2005
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>In article <>,
>wrote:
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>> >Read about the "sunny F16 rule"; it applies for moon shots as well.

>>
>> I would never shoot the moon like that, literally, with a DSLR; it will
>> always be too dark.

>
>It depends on the phase and the height in the sky. Only a full moon at
>it's zenith follows the sunny f16 rule.


Actually, that is the condition I had in mind. I don't think f/16 is
*ever* a good choice for a DSLR, if you're shooting RAW. In fact, f/16
is only usable on the ground, IMO, when there is bright white bird
plumage where you want to get detail; sunny f11 otherwise.

>A setting quarter moon or
>crescent is a completely different story.
>
>m-m


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