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CinePaint ?

Last I heard ... it was still mostly a Beta ... and not
available as a pre-compiled Windows Executable.

Regarding both "The GIMP" and CinePaint:

Both of these programs are approaching being quite capable
.... but in reality are "Hacker's Delights."

Do not get involved with them unless you own ... and know
how to use ... a "Compiler."

"RSD99" <> wrote:

> CinePaint ?
>
> Last I heard ... it was still mostly a Beta ... and not
> available as a pre-compiled Windows Executable.
>
> Regarding both "The GIMP" and CinePaint:
>
> Both of these programs are approaching being quite capable
> ... but in reality are "Hacker's Delights."
>
> Do not get involved with them unless you own ... and know
> how to use ... a "Compiler."

Well... opinions differ, I guess

Regards,
Wald

Roland Karlsson <> wrote:

> Unfortunately - they currently have no stable Windows release
> and it is not planned before Q4 2004. Thats now! But ... as they
> still say that; it is probabaly not Q4 2004, but rather sometime
> 2005.

I'm not quite getting this. Are you talking about the next Windows,
Longhorn? In that case, it's even worse: it's planned for Q4 2006, so count
on 2007 at the earliest

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...rget2006PR.asp

Regards,
Wald

"RSD99" <> wrote in news:5%Zad.5244$YU4.1917@trnddc06:

> Regarding both "The GIMP" and CinePaint:
>
> Both of these programs are approaching being quite capable
> ... but in reality are "Hacker's Delights."
>
> Do not get involved with them unless you own ... and know
> how to use ... a "Compiler."
>

I'm not sure why you say that -- we use the precompiled versions of The
GIMP on several windows machines at work and it's just fine for about any
general image editing tasks. If it worked with a tablet, it would be
suitable for many more.

Bob

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"bob" posted:
"...
If it worked with a tablet, it would be
suitable for many more.
...."

It does ... at least with the Wacom Intuos2.

From a posting by Tor Lillqvist <> on
comp.graphics.apps.gimp

= = = = =

You need to pass GIMP the command-line switch --use-wintab
to enable
pressure (and tilt) sensitivity. This is because there used
to be several
bugs in the tablet support in GTK (the tookit that GIMP
uses) on Windows.
However, I think most of them should be fixed now in the
latest versions of
GTK.

If you start GIMP by clicking on a shortcut (onb the desktop
or in the Start
Menu), edit the shortcut's properties and add --use-wintab
to the shortcut's
command line ("target").

Wald <arnout.standaert@n-o_s-p-a-m.cit.kuleuven.ac.be> wrote in
news:Xns95815862E8192arnoutstandaertnospa@134.58.1 27.12:

> I'm not quite getting this. Are you talking about the next Windows,
> Longhorn? In that case, it's even worse: it's planned for Q4 2006, so
> count on 2007 at the earliest
>

No - I am talking about the next stabel Windows release
of CinePaint. Stable releases of Windows I have stopped
waiting for already


/Roland

"RSD99" <> wrote in news:crcbd.1$yk5.0@trnddc01:

> "bob" posted:
> "...
> If it worked with a tablet, it would be
> suitable for many more.
> ..."
>
> It does ... at least with the Wacom Intuos2.
>
> From a posting by Tor Lillqvist <> on
> comp.graphics.apps.gimp
>
> = = = = =
>
> You need to pass GIMP the command-line switch --use-wintab
> to enable
> pressure (and tilt) sensitivity. This is because there used
> to be several
> bugs in the tablet support in GTK (the tookit that GIMP
> uses) on Windows.
> However, I think most of them should be fixed now in the
> latest versions of
> GTK.
>
> If you start GIMP by clicking on a shortcut (onb the desktop
> or in the Start
> Menu), edit the shortcut's properties and add --use-wintab
> to the shortcut's
> command line ("target").
>
>
>
>
>

Cool -- I'll give that a try!

Thanks.

Bob

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"RSD99" <> writes:

>Regarding both "The GIMP" and CinePaint:
>Both of these programs are approaching being quite capable
>... but in reality are "Hacker's Delights."

>Do not get involved with them unless you own ... and know
>how to use ... a "Compiler."

What do you base that on? Being able to add new features, or change
existing ones, is indeed an advantage of software you can get the source
for. But there's no need to.

I write software all day, using complilers for several different
machines, so I certainly have access to a compiler. But I have
installed the standard Windows binary distribution of The Gimp, using
its installer, and never felt the need to look at the source yet.
It works without any "hacking".

Dave