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Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper.

I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what
I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good
quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without
the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper
curling after it has been printed on.

Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!)
is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I
want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it
costs a lot more for the card and the ink.

I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
(without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
cost a lot to buy.

What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper
would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply?

Thanks for any recommendations

John

"John" <> wrote in message
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> I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
> can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
> (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
> paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
> cost a lot to buy.

The manual for your model and brand of printer probably
lists the paper varieties (weights and surface textures) the
manufacturer recommends. You can then go shopping
locally.

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"John" <> wrote in message
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> Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper.
>
> I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what
> I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good
> quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without
> the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper
> curling after it has been printed on.
>
> Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!)
> is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I
> want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it
> costs a lot more for the card and the ink.
>
> I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
> can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
> (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
> paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
> cost a lot to buy.
>
> What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper
> would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply?
>
> Thanks for any recommendations
>
> John
>


>I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!

gsm is a metric term and means grams per square meter. It is the thickness
of the paper.

If you are in the USA, most paper is in pounds. 20 pound paper is the normal
office paper. 24 Lb is a little thicker (heavier).

Here is page on the subject.
http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html

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John <> wrote:
>Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper.
>
>I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what
>I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good
>quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without
>the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper
>curling after it has been printed on.
>
>Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!)
>is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I
>want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it
>costs a lot more for the card and the ink.
>
>I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
>can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
>(without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
>paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
>cost a lot to buy.
>
>What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper
>would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply?
>
>Thanks for any recommendations
>
>John

John
gsm = grams per square metre. Sometimes written as g/m2. The weight of a square
metre of your paper would be 80 grams.
100 gsm paper is readily available from many outlets so you need to check near
you. This has less print through than 80gsm paper and is less likely to curl.
Give it a go.
BTW inkjets generally curl paper much less than lasers and in a different way,
but you mention ink in your post. Are you using a laser or an inkjet?
If you are using a laser cheap paper is not a good idea since it often has a
high clay content and will more readily absorb moisture resulting in more jams
than a quality paper will.
Tony

100gsm might do the trick. See if you can get a few sample sheets from
your stationary supplier.


In message <>, John
<> writes
>Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper.
>
>I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what
>I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good
>quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without
>the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper
>curling after it has been printed on.
>
>Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!)
>is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I
>want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it
>costs a lot more for the card and the ink.
>
>I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
>can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
>(without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
>paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
>cost a lot to buy.
>
>What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper
>would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply?
>
>Thanks for any recommendations
>
>John
>
>

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Yes I am using an inkjet printer. I am in the UK so most things are
metric here, well except for travelling distance we use Miles.

I will have to try find somewhere I can buy some 100gsm paper from
tomorrow and see if that works for me.

Thanks

John

John wrote:
> Hi. I am just after some advice on A4 paper.
>
> I don't know too much about the different grades and weights, but what
> I am looking for at the moment is something that is really good
> quality and will allow me to print on both sides of the paper without
> the ink showing through to the other side and without the paper
> curling after it has been printed on.
>
> Regular cheap office paper (I think this is 80gsm whatever gsm means!)
> is no good for this. I have been using white card, which does what I
> want however it takes twice as long to print on white card and it
> costs a lot more for the card and the ink.
>
> I would really like something that would still be classed as paper and
> can be sucked through my printer on sheet feed instead of manual
> (without any jams), but obviously is more heavy weight than regular
> paper, were the ink can't be seen through the paper and it doesn't
> cost a lot to buy.
>
> What should I be looking for? Can you recommend what grade of paper
> would fit this purpose and were I can buy cheaply?
>
> Thanks for any recommendations
>
> John
>
>

Quality and thickness are two different things.
Quality is usually expressed by the material,
e.g., 50 rag etc. Lower quality papers (normal
papers) are made of wood fiber from trees, some
however are acid free which means higher quality.
But higher quality papers all include a certain
percent of other material. For example a high
quality paper stationary paper would be 100
percent rag or linen.

As for thickness, the gsm rating is density. But
in similar papers a higher density means a thicker
paper. For example, the paper I use for printing
photos is 255 gsm or65 pound (you do the math for
the conversion).

Standard paper is 20 pound but we always used 24
pound paper for double sided printing for copy
machine and laser printing. Your printer may be
able to feed 65-70 pound paper with no problem,
but realize that photopaper is more dense weights
more per sheet) than regular paper. So in equal
weights the standard paper may be considerably
thicker and may not feed as well. In any case, I can

One solution you might try is to reduce the amount
of ink that you printer uses. If you get curl, it
sounds like you are not using inkjet paper or are
using too much ink. My paper does not curl. Your
printer driver may have a slide to adjust ink
volume or may only a set of quality settings.
Also, the amount of ink applied can change with
the paper type selected.

Can anyone recommend any main office supply stores or photocopy places
in the UK that would sell a whole range of paper at reasonable prices?

Would somewhere like Staples or Prontaprint sell different types of
paper? I am in Leeds, Yorkshire.

I am thinking that perhaps 120gsm paper would probably be right for
what I need to do. Something like Navigator Colour paper, Xerox
Colourtech Plus or Neusiedler Colour Copy paper.

I think online this is working out at about £17 for 500 sheets, so I
am not bothered if I have to pay slightly more than this if I can get
it in the shops tomorrow.

Thanks for any help

John

"John" <> wrote in message
> Would somewhere like Staples or Prontaprint sell different types of
> paper? I am in Leeds, Yorkshire.
>
> I am thinking that perhaps 120gsm paper would probably be right for
> what I need to do. Something like Navigator Colour paper, Xerox
> Colourtech Plus or Neusiedler Colour Copy paper.


This would work.
http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog...affixedcode=WW

They don't mention inkjet, but this will probably work well also
http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog...affixedcode=WW

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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:21:45 GMT, A strange species called "Edwin
Pawlowski" <> wrote:

>
>"John" <> wrote in message
>> Would somewhere like Staples or Prontaprint sell different types of
>> paper? I am in Leeds, Yorkshire.
>>
>> I am thinking that perhaps 120gsm paper would probably be right for
>> what I need to do. Something like Navigator Colour paper, Xerox
>> Colourtech Plus or Neusiedler Colour Copy paper.
>
>
>This would work.
>http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog...affixedcode=WW
>
>They don't mention inkjet, but this will probably work well also
>http://www.staples.co.uk/ENG/Catalog...affixedcode=WW

Thanks! That's great! There is a store pretty close as well so I
should be able to have some tomorrow.

John