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Old 01-22-2007, 02:11 AM   #1
Default Is Firewall essential in this case?


Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?

Thanks.


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Old 01-22-2007, 02:41 AM   #2
Todd H.
 
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Dickie Peters <ferrante276-> writes:

> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?


Zone alarm is pretty solid.

THe added protection you'd get from it vs the existing solutions is
notification of outbound internet access attempts from applications.
How big a deal that is, is debateable.

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Old 01-22-2007, 03:26 AM   #3
Notan
 
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Dickie Peters wrote:
> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?


You may just have opened a huge can of worms, and on that note...

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Old 01-22-2007, 06:53 AM   #4
Sebastian Gottschalk
 
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Dickie Peters wrote:

> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential


No. Independent of scenario.

> for added protection


Eh... how should ZoneAlarm achieve such a thing?

> if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)


Virus scanners don't provide protection.

> and have a wired router (D-link-524)?


And a router normally doesn't either.

> Will it offer me any additional protection?


No. Again: How should it?

> If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?


ZoneAlarm is no firewall. Anyway, where is your firewall? And why do you
need one?


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Old 01-22-2007, 08:11 AM   #5
Wraeth
 
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Dickie Peters wrote:
> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?
>
> Thanks.


It seems to me as though you don't know exactly what a firewall does...
It may be an idea for you to do some research (search 'firewall' in
google, for example) to find out what it does. As for whether you are
adequately protected, what you need to keep in mind is that different
firewalls suit different people. It depends on your technological
knowledge, what sort of control you would like, etc.

Do some research, then 'shop around' for a firewall that suits you. Try
some different ones to see what they're like, and settle down with the
one you like.

A friend of mine made a page for a company he worked for explaining it all:

http://www.jpc.nsw.edu.au/support/self/fwall.htm

See if that helps clear the situation for you.

Cheers
wraeth


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Old 01-22-2007, 02:24 PM   #6
greenandwhitefr@gmail.com
 
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On Jan 22, 10:11 am, Dickie Peters <ferrante276...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?
>
> Thanks.


Personally, I recommend using Comodo since it offer good outbound
protection.
Your router provide some sort of inbound protection (although it is not
a hardware firewall theoritically)
Computer experts recommend users to use both hardware firewall and
software firewall to offer additional protection.
http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html


For more information about PC internet security,please visit my
website:
http://removevirus.blogspot.com/
There are a lot of links to websites about basic knowledge of PC
internet security.

P.S.
The website of Wraeth's friend is excellent. Good Job,Wraeth !



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Old 01-22-2007, 03:13 PM   #7
Sebastian Gottschalk
 
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wrote:

> On Jan 22, 10:11 am, Dickie Peters <ferrante276...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
>> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
>> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
>> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?
>>
>> Thanks.

>
> Personally, I recommend using Comodo since it offer good outbound
> protection.


Well, sadly just in your reality.

> Computer experts recommend users to use both hardware firewall and
> software firewall to offer additional protection.
> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html


Where are the computer experts? You only referenced CERT, who are experts
in telling how the users stay out of problems longer (but without any
security) while staying dump so the have less trouble.

Beside that, they don't make any such recommendation.

> For more information about PC internet security,please visit my
> website:
> http://removevirus.blogspot.com/


Someone who has a clue about security would never ever go there, since just
the name obviously implies nonsense.

> There are a lot of links to websites about basic knowledge of PC
> internet security.


Well, why don't you provide any? I can only see advertisement for
superfluos software, made by fools with no technical competence, not
providing and real knowledge.


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Old 01-22-2007, 03:28 PM   #8
greenandwhitefr@gmail.com
 
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Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 22, 10:11 am, Dickie Peters <ferrante276...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> >> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> >> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> >> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?
> >>
> >> Thanks.

> >
> > Personally, I recommend using Comodo since it offer good outbound
> > protection.

>
> Well, sadly just in your reality.
>
> > Computer experts recommend users to use both hardware firewall and
> > software firewall to offer additional protection.
> > http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html

>
> Where are the computer experts? You only referenced CERT, who are experts
> in telling how the users stay out of problems longer (but without any
> security) while staying dump so the have less trouble.
>
> Beside that, they don't make any such recommendation.
>
> > For more information about PC internet security,please visit my
> > website:
> > http://removevirus.blogspot.com/

>
> Someone who has a clue about security would never ever go there, since just
> the name obviously implies nonsense.
>
> > There are a lot of links to websites about basic knowledge of PC
> > internet security.

>
> Well, why don't you provide any? I can only see advertisement for
> superfluos software, made by fools with no technical competence, not
> providing and real knowledge.


Thank you for your comments,Sebastian Gottschalk.



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Old 01-22-2007, 04:15 PM   #9
Todd H.
 
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Sebastian Gottschalk <> writes:

> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 22, 10:11 am, Dickie Peters <ferrante276...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Is a software firewall such as Zone Alarm essential for added
> >> protection if I am already using the XP firewall, AVG antivirus (free)
> >> and have a wired router (D-link-524)? Will it offer me any additional
> >> protection? If so, is there a better free firewall than Zone alarm?
> >>
> >> Thanks.

> >
> > Personally, I recommend using Comodo since it offer good outbound
> > protection.

>
> Well, sadly just in your reality.


Sebbastian, why are you such a sad, negative, asshole?

Just asking. You seem like a reasonably intelligent guy and would have
quite a bit to offer the world if you weren't so often such a
beligerent **** to well-meaning folks.

Best Regards,
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:52 PM   #10
Sebastian Gottschalk
 
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Todd H. wrote:

>>> Personally, I recommend using Comodo since it offer good outbound
>>> protection.

>>
>> Well, sadly just in your reality.

>
> [snip]
> and would have quite a bit to offer the world if you weren't so
> often such a beligerent **** to well-meaning folks.


Eh... actually I'm trying to be exactly well-meaning. I didn't call him
stupid or anything else, I just pointed out that he should check his
opinion against some hard reality facts. And as such, he should
recommending things that he doesn't have any fu^W fine clue about.

And of course it would be nice if outbound protection could work in some
serious way. But for obvious reasons it doesn't and won't ever.


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