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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:01:30 GMT, lnh <> Gave us:

>Go to AVS Forums. They have a long tutorial on burning HD DVDs and in
>the process of doing that they talk about getting them to play on PCs.
>It's not easy...

Top posting retard!

The discussion is about getting a PRESSED studio disc to play.

****tard pirate mentality, top posting Usenet retarded dipshit.

On 30 Dec 2006 21:08:54 -0800, Gave us:

>
>JoeBloe wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:42:29 -0500, Derek Janssen
>> <> Gave us:
>>
>> >JoeBloe wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:14 -1000, "Hertz_Donut"
>> >> <> Gave us:
>> >>
>> >>>1. Windows Media Center is based directly on Window XP Professional.
>> >>>
>> >>>2. You will need a program such as the latest version of Nero which will
>> >>>read HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs.
>> >>
>> >> If the disc CAME with the computer that has the HD reader, the app
>> >> to play should already be on the computer as well.
>> >
>> >No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>> >DVD players.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with the OS at all.
>>
>> It is a pre-package, pre-assembled PC. It CAME with the movie, and
>> an HD DVD reader.
>>
>> The company, or PC shop or whatever that pre-packaged it should have
>> made it capable of actually delivering what it promised.
>>
>> It is really that simple.
>
>Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
>actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
>replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
>WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
>obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive.

"I" didn't format anything, you retarded ****.

> I suggest you
>dig up the CD or DVD-ROM (more likely) that came with your PC and do a
>reinstall.

I suggest you learn how to read a thread, and make your response to
the proper point in said thread, and to the proper person.

On 30 Dec 2006 21:11:13 -0800, Gave us:

>
>littlejoef...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> JoeBloe wrote:
>> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:42:29 -0500, Derek Janssen
>> > <> Gave us:
>> >
>> > >JoeBloe wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:14 -1000, "Hertz_Donut"
>> > >> <> Gave us:
>> > >>
>> > >>>1. Windows Media Center is based directly on Window XP Professional.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>2. You will need a program such as the latest version of Nero which will
>> > >>>read HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs.
>> > >>
>> > >> If the disc CAME with the computer that has the HD reader, the app
>> > >> to play should already be on the computer as well.
>> > >
>> > >No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>> > >DVD players.
>> >
>> > It has nothing to do with the OS at all.
>> >
>> > It is a pre-package, pre-assembled PC. It CAME with the movie, and
>> > an HD DVD reader.
>> >
>> > The company, or PC shop or whatever that pre-packaged it should have
>> > made it capable of actually delivering what it promised.
>> >
>> > It is really that simple.
>>
>> Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
>> actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
>> replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
>> WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
>> obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive. I suggest you
>> dig up the CD or DVD-ROM (more likely) that came with your PC and do a
>> reinstall.
>
>Sorry I meant "you" as in the original poster not you JoeBloe.


Yeah... whatever.

"JoeBloe" <> wrote in message
news...
> On 30 Dec 2006 21:08:54 -0800, Gave us:
>
> >
> >JoeBloe wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:42:29 -0500, Derek Janssen
> >> <> Gave us:
> >>
> >> >JoeBloe wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:14 -1000, "Hertz_Donut"
> >> >> <> Gave us:
> >> >>
> >> >>>1. Windows Media Center is based directly on Window XP Professional.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>2. You will need a program such as the latest version of Nero which
will
> >> >>>read HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs.
> >> >>
> >> >> If the disc CAME with the computer that has the HD reader, the app
> >> >> to play should already be on the computer as well.
> >> >
> >> >No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
> >> >DVD players.
> >>
> >> It has nothing to do with the OS at all.
> >>
> >> It is a pre-package, pre-assembled PC. It CAME with the movie, and
> >> an HD DVD reader.
> >>
> >> The company, or PC shop or whatever that pre-packaged it should have
> >> made it capable of actually delivering what it promised.
> >>
> >> It is really that simple.
> >
> >Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
> >actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
> >replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
> >WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
> >obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive.
>
> "I" didn't format anything, you retarded ****.
>
> > I suggest you
> >dig up the CD or DVD-ROM (more likely) that came with your PC and do a
> >reinstall.
>
> I suggest you learn how to read a thread, and make your response to
> the proper point in said thread, and to the proper person.



and you which responds saying that if it came with a hd player should be
able to play hd dvd
DID NOT read the ariginal post of how he did a reinstall back to winxp pro
....
so before you go on ranting how he should have read and responded properly
.... maybe you should have read the post entirely as well ...


so joebloe you can bloe more than joe before you respond to anyone !

<> wrote in message
news: ups.com...
>
> littlejoef...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> JoeBloe wrote:
>> > On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:42:29 -0500, Derek Janssen
>> > <> Gave us:
>> >
>> > >JoeBloe wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:14 -1000, "Hertz_Donut"
>> > >> <> Gave us:
>> > >>
>> > >>>1. Windows Media Center is based directly on Window XP
>> > >>>Professional.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>2. You will need a program such as the latest version of Nero
>> > >>>which will
>> > >>>read HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs.
>> > >>
>> > >> If the disc CAME with the computer that has the HD reader,
>> > >> the app
>> > >> to play should already be on the computer as well.
>> > >
>> > >No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for
>> > >your own
>> > >DVD players.
>> >
>> > It has nothing to do with the OS at all.
>> >
>> > It is a pre-package, pre-assembled PC. It CAME with the movie,
>> > and
>> > an HD DVD reader.
>> >
>> > The company, or PC shop or whatever that pre-packaged it should
>> > have
>> > made it capable of actually delivering what it promised.
>> >
>> > It is really that simple.
>>
>> Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
>> actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
>> replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
>> WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
>> obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive. I suggest
>> you
>> dig up the CD or DVD-ROM (more likely) that came with your PC and
>> do a
>> reinstall.
>
> Sorry I meant "you" as in the original poster not you JoeBloe.

Install the UDF support patch. See if that helps.
>

Wow, quite the passionate group I posted to here.

Anyway, Company Man was right (though I figured it out prior to his
post). What I needed to install was the UDF 2.5 file system driver on
the machine so Windows could recognize the files on the HD-DVD disc. I
was able to find one on the web and that seems to have made Windows
happy with it (e.g. Explorer now shows the name of the movie when it's
in the drive, I can browse the directories/files, etc.).

To answer some of the things people mentioned above:

> No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
> DVD players.

It's not actually Windows to blame here. Windows XP came out way before
UDF 2.5 was defined so I can't fault it for not coming with the driver.
Vista actually comes with support natively it seems. So when I upgrade
I should be fine there.

Also, I also have a MacBook Pro which I really like but I hadn't yet
heard of any Macs that came with HD-DVD drives. Maybe I've just missed
them.

> (so, like...there are computer companies that DON'T give
> you everything in the box?)

It's because I chose to flatten the box that I got myself into this. I
realized this prior to doing it. The unfortunate part is that HP (the
maker of the machine I purchased) doesn't provide you with actual
Windows install disc. It instead gives you "recovery discs" which force
you to install it their way. I have my reasons for needing pure XP
though, if I didn't I'd certainly be running MCE.

> Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
> actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
> replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
> WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
> obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive.

It's a drivers thing in this case, not an OS thing. Media Center
doesn't have some native ability to play HD-DVD discs that XP doesn't
provided you have the right drivers.

Also, note I'm not really blaming the "company" for what I did. It
would be nice if they'd have the proper drivers available on their
website instead of only giving you the option of making your own
recovery discs. However, I am not in agreement with anyone who expects
my machine to never be formatted as that's just naive and unrealistic.
It's even funnier given how the machine came with all sorts of papers
informing me of how it was Vista ready and how to join the Vista
upgrade process but the one support rep I spoke to was saying how they
do not support formatting the machine or upgrading it's OS to any other
OS.

In the end, I'm fine with it all as it's easy enough to figure out the
manufacturer of each component, head to their web site, and
download/install the appropriate driver. This is what I end up doing
each time I get a new machine (especially when I build it myself)
anyway.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help including the folks afflicted
by what seems to be some sort of usenet rage.

aloof wrote:
>
>>No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>>DVD players.
>
> It's not actually Windows to blame here. Windows XP came out way before
> UDF 2.5 was defined so I can't fault it for not coming with the driver.
> Vista actually comes with support natively it seems. So when I upgrade
> I should be fine there.
>
> Also, I also have a MacBook Pro which I really like but I hadn't yet
> heard of any Macs that came with HD-DVD drives. Maybe I've just missed
> them.

Heard it's the focus of next year's OSX 10.5 model, but we're waiting
for next spring's announcement like everybody else--
When we finally find out whether Apple is going for Blu or Both.

> Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help including the folks afflicted
> by what seems to be some sort of usenet rage.

(What, the 12-yo. "retard" guy?--Yeah, we have to keep telling newbies
to killfile him, but we'll keep you posted with upgrades when he changes
his screenname every two months.)

Derek Janssen (at least you get THAT free with the AVD license)

On 31 Dec 2006 11:03:39 -0800, "aloof" <> Gave us:

>Wow, quite the passionate group I posted to here.
>
>Anyway, Company Man was right (though I figured it out prior to his
>post). What I needed to install was the UDF 2.5 file system driver on
>the machine so Windows could recognize the files on the HD-DVD disc. I
>was able to find one on the web and that seems to have made Windows
>happy with it (e.g. Explorer now shows the name of the movie when it's
>in the drive, I can browse the directories/files, etc.).
>
>To answer some of the things people mentioned above:
>
>> No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>> DVD players.
>
>It's not actually Windows to blame here. Windows XP came out way before
>UDF 2.5 was defined so I can't fault it for not coming with the driver.
>Vista actually comes with support natively it seems. So when I upgrade
>I should be fine there.
>
>Also, I also have a MacBook Pro which I really like but I hadn't yet
>heard of any Macs that came with HD-DVD drives. Maybe I've just missed
>them.
>
>> (so, like...there are computer companies that DON'T give
>> you everything in the box?)
>
>It's because I chose to flatten the box that I got myself into this. I
>realized this prior to doing it. The unfortunate part is that HP (the
>maker of the machine I purchased) doesn't provide you with actual
>Windows install disc. It instead gives you "recovery discs" which force
>you to install it their way. I have my reasons for needing pure XP
>though, if I didn't I'd certainly be running MCE.
>
>> Actually the company, or PC shop or whatever DID make it capable of
>> actually delivering what it promised until "you" formatted it and
>> replaced the properly configured Windows Media Center (successor to
>> WinXP Pro) for an older version of the Operating System, which
>> obviously lacks the capability to use an HD-DVD drive.
>
>It's a drivers thing in this case, not an OS thing. Media Center
>doesn't have some native ability to play HD-DVD discs that XP doesn't
>provided you have the right drivers.
>
>Also, note I'm not really blaming the "company" for what I did. It
>would be nice if they'd have the proper drivers available on their
>website instead of only giving you the option of making your own
>recovery discs. However, I am not in agreement with anyone who expects
>my machine to never be formatted as that's just naive and unrealistic.
>It's even funnier given how the machine came with all sorts of papers
>informing me of how it was Vista ready and how to join the Vista
>upgrade process but the one support rep I spoke to was saying how they
>do not support formatting the machine or upgrading it's OS to any other
>OS.
>
>In the end, I'm fine with it all as it's easy enough to figure out the
>manufacturer of each component, head to their web site, and
>download/install the appropriate driver. This is what I end up doing
>each time I get a new machine (especially when I build it myself)
>anyway.
>
>Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help including the folks afflicted
>by what seems to be some sort of usenet rage.


Great response. You are probably smarter than a lot of those that
answered.

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:15:38 -0500, Derek Janssen
<> Gave us:

>aloof wrote:
>>
>>>No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>>>DVD players.
>>
>> It's not actually Windows to blame here. Windows XP came out way before
>> UDF 2.5 was defined so I can't fault it for not coming with the driver.
>> Vista actually comes with support natively it seems. So when I upgrade
>> I should be fine there.
>>
>> Also, I also have a MacBook Pro which I really like but I hadn't yet
>> heard of any Macs that came with HD-DVD drives. Maybe I've just missed
>> them.
>
>Heard it's the focus of next year's OSX 10.5 model, but we're waiting
>for next spring's announcement like everybody else--
>When we finally find out whether Apple is going for Blu or Both.
>
>> Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help including the folks afflicted
>> by what seems to be some sort of usenet rage.
>
>(What, the 12-yo. "retard" guy?--Yeah, we have to keep telling newbies
>to killfile him, but we'll keep you posted with upgrades when he changes
>his screenname every two months.)
>
Said the retard that hasn't killfiled anyone.

In <> JoeBloe <> writes:

>On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:15:38 -0500, Derek Janssen
><> Gave us:

>>aloof wrote:
>>>
>>>>No, you're thinking of Apple. Windows makes you go look for your own
>>>>DVD players.
>>>
>>> It's not actually Windows to blame here. Windows XP came out way before
>>> UDF 2.5 was defined so I can't fault it for not coming with the driver.
>>> Vista actually comes with support natively it seems. So when I upgrade
>>> I should be fine there.
>>>
>>> Also, I also have a MacBook Pro which I really like but I hadn't yet
>>> heard of any Macs that came with HD-DVD drives. Maybe I've just missed
>>> them.
>>
>>Heard it's the focus of next year's OSX 10.5 model, but we're waiting
>>for next spring's announcement like everybody else--
>>When we finally find out whether Apple is going for Blu or Both.
>>
>>> Anyway, thanks to everyone for the help including the folks afflicted
>>> by what seems to be some sort of usenet rage.
>>
>>(What, the 12-yo. "retard" guy?--Yeah, we have to keep telling newbies
>>to killfile him, but we'll keep you posted with upgrades when he changes
>>his screenname every two months.)
>>
> Said the retard that hasn't killfiled anyone.

Why killfile? Reading your unmedicated rants is very entertaining and
almost always good for a few laughs.

Keep it up Joe, or Roy, or whatever you call yourself.
--
Colin McFadyen - Systems Support -
Carleton University Computing and Communications Services
Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1S 5B6