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Old 10-14-2006, 01:50 AM   #1
Default DVD not working w/ 13 yr old TV


I am trying to help out a senior lady who is my neighbor.

While I do not have much detail she said that her DVD is not working with
her 13 year old television. Not sure what "not working" actually means.

But she was told it is because her TV was too old.

Has anyone else heard of this possibility?

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Old 10-14-2006, 02:51 AM   #2
Dick Sidbury
 
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In article <2vWXg.40042$nm1.32550@fed1read04>,
"Michael T." <> wrote:

> I am trying to help out a senior lady who is my neighbor.
>
> While I do not have much detail she said that her DVD is not working with
> her 13 year old television. Not sure what "not working" actually means.
>
> But she was told it is because her TV was too old.
>
> Has anyone else heard of this possibility?
>
> --
> Michael


The best guess I have is that DVD players typically don't have RF
outputs and old TVs have only RF inputs. But you can buy a connecting
device at lots of places. I have an old one that I bought at Radio
Shack for about 25 dollars several years ago.

dick


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Old 10-14-2006, 04:06 AM   #3
Michael T.
 
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> In article <2vWXg.40042$nm1.32550@fed1read04>,
>
> The best guess I have is that DVD players typically don't have RF
> outputs and old TVs have only RF inputs. But you can buy a connecting
> device at lots of places. I have an old one that I bought at Radio
> Shack for about 25 dollars several years ago.
>
> dick


Thanks Dick. I will pass this along to her.




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Old 10-14-2006, 09:59 AM   #4
Impmon
 
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:50:10 -0700, "Michael T."
<> wrote:

>Has anyone else heard of this possibility?


If the TV does not have AV or S-Video input, the TV is too old and you
may have a luck with a $20 RF modulator that converts AV signal to RF
for cable/antenna input.

Considering the current TV is going out, it is probably a good idea to
invest in a new TV that are HDTV ready for when the current NTSC
signal is discontinued in about 2 years
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Old 10-14-2006, 05:08 PM   #5
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:59:04 GMT, Impmon <> wrote:


>On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:50:10 -0700, "Michael T."
><> wrote:


>>Has anyone else heard of this possibility?


>If the TV does not have AV or S-Video input, the TV is too old and you
>may have a luck with a $20 RF modulator that converts AV signal to RF
>for cable/antenna input.


Have you actually tried that?

When you use an RF modulator, you usually will get brightness fluctuations
due to the macrovision crap infesting the DVD's video output.
You need to use a TV specifically designed not to barf on macrovision and
that pretty much rules out all old tvs.


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Old 10-14-2006, 06:47 PM   #6
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:59:04 GMT, Impmon wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:50:10 -0700, "Michael T."
><> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone else heard of this possibility?

>
> If the TV does not have AV or S-Video input, the TV is too old and you
> may have a luck with a $20 RF modulator that converts AV signal to RF
> for cable/antenna input.
>
> Considering the current TV is going out, it is probably a good idea to
> invest in a new TV that are HDTV ready for when the current NTSC
> signal is discontinued in about 2 years


30" CRT HDTV 4:3 = $600*
32" CRT SDTV 4:3 = $300*

That's an unreasonable increase in cost for something someone may or may
not even have an interest in.

Yes, I realize that there are development costs to recover in the HD
set. But why should I (or the neighbor) pay those development costs when
we don't care about them? The won't matter for someone's DVDs of SD
shows.

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Old 10-14-2006, 08:53 PM   #7
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AZ Nomad wrote:

> When you use an RF modulator, you usually will get brightness
> fluctuations due to the macrovision crap infesting the DVD's video
> output.


Just like there are cheap Chinese funny-brand DVD players that have
"secret" remote key sequences and hidden menus for changing the region
(or disabling region checks altogether), there are also some that allow
disabling the Macrovision protection by similar means.

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Old 10-14-2006, 09:15 PM   #8
AZ Nomad
 
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:53:27 +0300, Jukka Aho <> wrote:


>AZ Nomad wrote:


>> When you use an RF modulator, you usually will get brightness
>> fluctuations due to the macrovision crap infesting the DVD's video
>> output.


>Just like there are cheap Chinese funny-brand DVD players that have
>"secret" remote key sequences and hidden menus for changing the region
>(or disabling region checks altogether), there are also some that allow
>disabling the Macrovision protection by similar means.


It's something to check for. The first DVD player I ever got was a pioneer
LD/DVD combo player that wouldn't spew macrovision if you put a jumper in
just the right place. Do a search for something like "<make model> macrovision
hack"


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Old 10-15-2006, 12:14 AM   #9
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:08:19 GMT, AZ Nomad
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>Have you actually tried that?


Yes I have

>When you use an RF modulator, you usually will get brightness fluctuations
>due to the macrovision crap infesting the DVD's video output.
>You need to use a TV specifically designed not to barf on macrovision and
>that pretty much rules out all old tvs.


My DVD player works fine on a vintage 1980-something Zennith TV that
only has 300 ohms input. Mind you the DVD player is not hacked at
all. When buying the RF modulator, you need to make sure it's
designed to work with DVD players. AFAIK all modulators sold nowday
works fine with DVD players.

The said TV is used in the RV for camping and will remain in use till
it blows up. The TV that I do most of the watching has AV inputs.
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:17 AM   #10
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:47:52 -0500, "Peter H. Coffin"
<> wrote:

>30" CRT HDTV 4:3 = $600*
>32" CRT SDTV 4:3 = $300*
>
>That's an unreasonable increase in cost for something someone may or may
>not even have an interest in.

[snip]

A few years ago similiar sized HDTV's were in the $1,000 range. As
more companies switch to HDTV from current NTSC, more compeition in
the market will keep driving the price down. Check back in maybe one
year from now, they will probably seems cheap. But don't wait until
the last minute because I think there will be a rush to buy HDTV (or
HDTV to NTSC converter) when NTSC goes off air permantly.
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