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BillJosephson
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      01-15-2007
Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++, and just discovered on my
bookshelve Codewarrior 7. It says Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME. Can I
develop a command line application that will work on my XT machine? A
grahpical interface?

Thanks a lot for any thoughts on this. I know I should get a newer
compiler but if I could save the money for the time being that would be
great.

Thanks.

 
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      01-15-2007
BillJosephson wrote:
> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++, and just discovered on my
> bookshelve Codewarrior 7. It says Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME. Can I
> develop a command line application that will work on my XT machine? A
> grahpical interface?
>
> Thanks a lot for any thoughts on this. I know I should get a newer
> compiler but if I could save the money for the time being that would be
> great.


My guess is that it just means that those where the Windows
versions available when Codewarrior 7 was released.

It will probably work fine on XP.

I don't know the product, but if it is professionally
grade, then you can configure it to use a newer Java version
(even though maybe syntax highlighting may not work optimal
with the new Java 1.5 syntaxes).

Arne
 
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IR
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      01-15-2007
BillJosephson wrote:

> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++, and just discovered
> on my bookshelve Codewarrior 7. It says Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000,
> ME. Can I develop a command line application that will work on my
> XT machine? A grahpical interface?


Are you meaning Windows XP? If so, you should already be aware that XP
is a descendant of the NT/2000 family (in opposition to the 9x
family). So the answer to your question is: yes.

> Thanks a lot for any thoughts on this. I know I should get a newer
> compiler but if I could save the money for the time being that
> would be great.


FWIW, Microsoft's Visual C++ 2005 Express edition is free for
download. Just google for it.

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IR
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      01-15-2007
IR wrote:

> BillJosephson wrote:
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>> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++


I forgot to mention Eclipse for Java development (which is free also).

Incidentally, you could also use it's CDT plugin for C++ development.


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      01-15-2007
BillJosephson wrote:
> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++, and just discovered on my
> bookshelve Codewarrior 7. It says Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME. Can I
> develop a command line application that will work on my XT machine? A
> grahpical interface?


Windows 2.11 (the earliest version I've ever seen), which requires an
80286 processor, won't even run on an XT, let alone any of the Windows
versions you mentioned. The XT is primarily useful as a DOS machine
since it's limited to a maximum of ~1 MB of RAM. Since Windows 3.x and
earlier, and those older DOS versions, don't support long filenames, it
simply won't be possible to do real Java development.

If you're looking to write Java code, you're going to need newer
hardware. I recommend at least a Pentium I (80586 processor) as an
absolute minimum. And then, for the Microsoft Windows family, you'll
need Windows 2000 or newer (e.g., Windows XP) to use the current
version of Java -- scrap Windows 95/98/ME since these are no longer
supported by Microsoft (and Windows ME will be soon if it hasn't been
discontinued already).

You might also consider using Unix or Linux (I recommend NetBSD Unix
with Gnome {GUI} because they aren't known to be memory hogs, and
NetBSD has a very novice-friendly support community in IRC, etc.) if
you can't afford the newest hardware since the hefty cost of a Windows
license can be used to purchase better hardware.

As for C++, you can probably do it with an XT, but that's beyond the
scope of the Java newsgroup you posted this in.

> Thanks a lot for any thoughts on this. I know I should get a newer
> compiler but if I could save the money for the time being that would be
> great.


If I were you, I'd worry about getting a newer computer -- you
obviously got more value out of your XT than anyone I know given that
the 8088 processor is ancient hardware nowadays. Given the speed
difference between an XT processor (typically up to 8 MHz) and modern
PC processors (typically measured in GHz which is well over 1,000 times
faster given additional enhancements such as Caching, Pipelining,
HyperThreading, and so much more), it doesn't really make sense to
consider using an XT for any levels of serious software development
anymore.

> Thanks.


You're welcome, and congratulations on having an XT that actually still
works (maybe the Guiness Book of World Records will add an entry for
you in their next book?). =)

 
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      01-15-2007
kingpin+ wrote:
> BillJosephson wrote:
>> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++, and just discovered on my
>> bookshelve Codewarrior 7. It says Windows 95, 98, NT, 2000, ME. Can I
>> develop a command line application that will work on my XT machine? A
>> grahpical interface?

>
> Windows 2.11 (the earliest version I've ever seen), which requires an
> 80286 processor, won't even run on an XT, let alone any of the Windows
> versions you mentioned. The XT is primarily useful as a DOS machine
> since it's limited to a maximum of ~1 MB of RAM. Since Windows 3.x and
> earlier, and those older DOS versions, don't support long filenames, it
> simply won't be possible to do real Java development.


The other replies has assumed that XT was typo and the
poster meant XP.

Well - it do say XT.

Arne
 
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kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca
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      01-15-2007
Arne Vajhøj wrote:
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> The other replies has assumed that XT was typo and the
> poster meant XP.
>
> Well - it do say XT.


Considering that one of my clients just got rid of their XT less than 2
years ago (they sure got their money's worth out of it), it didn't seem
all that unrealistic. Anyway, good-bye DOS, and hello Java & friends!

 
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Lew
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      01-15-2007
BillJosephson wrote:
>>> Hi, I want to write a program in Java or C++


IR wrote:
> I forgot to mention Eclipse for Java development (which is free also).
>
> Incidentally, you could also use it's [sic] CDT plugin for C++ development.


There are many IDEs (integrated development environments) available for Java
development, and few not-so-I DEs like emacs, many of which are free. Java
itself is free ("as in beer").

GIYF.

- Lew
 
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red floyd
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      01-15-2007
Lew wrote:
> Java itself is free ("as in beer").
>

And in Speech. Sun is GPL'ing Java.
 
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red floyd
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      01-15-2007
kingpin+ wrote:
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> Windows 2.11 (the earliest version I've ever seen), which requires an
> 80286 processor, won't even run on an XT, let alone any of the Windows
> versions you mentioned. The XT is primarily useful as a DOS machine
> since it's limited to a maximum of ~1 MB of RAM. Since Windows 3.x and
> earlier, and those older DOS versions, don't support long filenames, it
> simply won't be possible to do real Java development.
>


No, 2.11 would run on a straight 8088. Not very well, but it *would* run.

Even Windows 3.0 would run on an 8088 in real mode. Windows 3.1 was the
first version (not counting Windows/386) which would not run on an 8088.
 
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