Tedious Question

For some of you guys, I apologise in advance.

I have finished my A Levels and am looking to get into the IT industry. Is
it worth training up and doing the MCSE/MCSA? Is there a strong likelihood of
getting a job once I've done this?!

I know it's a really broad question but I'd really appreciate any advice
available.


Thanks in advance

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:55:00 -0800, H K cast into the ether:

> For some of you guys, I apologise in advance.
>

No problem.

> I have finished my A Levels and am looking to get into the IT industry. Is
> it worth training up and doing the MCSE/MCSA? Is there a strong likelihood of
> getting a job once I've done this?!
>

With no experience, the certs are meaningless. So in a word, no.

> I know it's a really broad question but I'd really appreciate any advice
> available.

Nah, that was an easy one. Advice would be to get experience if this is
really what you want to do. Volunteer, try for internship, start out with
a big box retailer and work your way into service dept, whatever it takes
to get some hands-on. Then, if you decide that you want to continue, you
might consider getting certified in what you are experienced in.

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if I was given the opportunity to train up and get some experience and then
take the exams would it be worth it?

being quoted about 8 grand for the whole lot

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did you hear JaR <> say in
news:

>> I have finished my A Levels and am looking to get into the IT
>> industry. Is it worth training up and doing the MCSE/MCSA? Is there a
>> strong likelihood of getting a job once I've done this?!
>>
>
> With no experience, the certs are meaningless. So in a word, no.

I totally disagree. There are tons of jobs at "Geeks on call" aren't
there? There are jobs, you just have to work from teh bottom up.

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did you hear =?Utf-8?B?SCBL?= <> say in
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> being quoted about 8 grand for the whole lot
>

buy some books, a computer with TONS of RAM, grab a copy of VPC from
Microsoft, several copies of eval software (freely available from MS) and
train yourself for much cheaper. If you don't have an employer paying the
8k, it seems to be a huge gamble for what could be very little gain.

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- It's always darkest before dawn. So if you're going to steal the
neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

Neil

>if I was given the opportunity to train up and get some experience and then
>take the exams would it be worth it?
>
>being quoted about 8 grand for the whole lot

I sure hope you mean *you'll* be getting $8,000 and not that *you*
will be paying $8,000. Jeez......

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Kline Sphere

>I have finished my A Levels and am looking to get into the IT industry.

do a degree.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Kline Sphere

>I totally disagree. There are tons of jobs at "Geeks on call" aren't
>there? There are jobs, you just have to work from teh bottom up.

a bit like becoming president then!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3

Kline Sphere

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> >I have finished my A Levels and am looking to get into the IT industry.
>
> do a degree.

Get her drunk, first.

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:56:00 -0800, H K cast into the ether:

> if I was given the opportunity to train up and get some experience and then
> take the exams would it be worth it?
>
> being quoted about 8 grand for the whole lot

If they are paying *you* then maybe. I doubt that this is going to be the
case.

What "experience" do you think you'll be able to put on a resume?

If you were hiring somebody to admin your servers, and be responsible
for your data, and your connectivity, what would be *your* definition of
experience?

Would *you* hire somebody fresh out of a four to six week training program
with a brand-new piece of paper claiming to be a systems admin to run your
business critical network?

About as likely as hiring a kid with a first-aid cert to do heart surgery.

Sorry. Save your money, there's no shortcut. Get the training, sure, get
the experience, definately, then get certified to show you know your stuff.

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