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Hello!

I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
wireless network.

I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
wireless USB for internet access.

I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
(EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
1. Wireless network:
2 static IPs
Router serves as gateway/DNS server
Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)

2. Wired Local Area network:
Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
router, etc.)
As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
connectivity...

What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
and go to the internet WIRELESS?

Thank you in advance!!!

You need to set metrics on both the wired and wireless card. The wired cards
will need a static IP address, in a different IP address range than the
wireless cards (Wireless IP address 192.168.1.xxx and wired 192.168.3.xxx
with both using a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0) see Jack's,
http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.html for help on the metrics

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"Alex" <> wrote in message
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> Hello!
>
> I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
> wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
> computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
> wireless network.
>
> I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
> computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
> USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
> between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
> carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
> wireless USB for internet access.
>
> I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
> (EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
> 1. Wireless network:
> 2 static IPs
> Router serves as gateway/DNS server
> Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)
>
> 2. Wired Local Area network:
> Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
> router, etc.)
> As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
> connectivity...
>
> What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
> and go to the internet WIRELESS?
>
> Thank you in advance!!!
>

hello alex I have a problem with my wireless I am trying to get a computer to
pick up a single from the router but it won't I have downloaded the pci
adapter in the computer but it won't pick up.


"Alex" wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
> wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
> computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
> wireless network.
>
> I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
> computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
> USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
> between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
> carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
> wireless USB for internet access.
>
> I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
> (EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
> 1. Wireless network:
> 2 static IPs
> Router serves as gateway/DNS server
> Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)
>
> 2. Wired Local Area network:
> Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
> router, etc.)
> As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
> connectivity...
>
> What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
> and go to the internet WIRELESS?
>
> Thank you in advance!!!
>
>

David,

Thank you for the suggestion. It worked - though, temporarily.
I set up the static IPs as you suggested, 192.168.1.xxx for the
wireless, 192.168.3.yyy for the wired.
Defined the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 on all 4 addresses. Set the
metrics to 20 on wired, 30 on wireless.
I could see in the Task Manager (Networking tab) that computers were
communicating via the wired.

I started having intermittent internet connectivity issues, though -
something that did not happen when the hub was not in the picture.
Until, eventually, computers would just refuse to go out to the web
(same symptoms on both). Disconnecting and reconnecting from/to the
wireless network did not help. Turning the hub off always does...

Any other suggestions? Thank you in advance!




On Jan 26, 4:43 am, "David Hettel" <dah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You need to set metrics on both the wired and wireless card. The wired cards
> will need a static IP address, in a different IP address range than the
> wireless cards (Wireless IP address 192.168.1.xxx and wired 192.168.3.xxx
> with both using a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0) see Jack's,http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.htmlfor help on the metrics
>
> --
> David Hettel
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone
> to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in
> E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any kind,
> either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability
> or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct,
> indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or
> inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and confers
> no rights.
>
> "Alex" <avil...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hello!
>
> > I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
> > wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
> > computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
> > wireless network.
>
> > I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
> > computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
> > USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
> > between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
> > carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
> > wireless USB for internet access.
>
> > I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
> > (EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
> > 1. Wireless network:
> > 2 static IPs
> > Router serves as gateway/DNS server
> > Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)
>
> > 2. Wired Local Area network:
> > Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
> > router, etc.)
> > As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
> > connectivity...
>
> > What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
> > and go to the internet WIRELESS?
>
> > Thank you in advance!!!- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

I've never tried this myself, personally I'd have used dynamic IP on the
wireless, and static on the wired. Are you defining anything else for the
wired in your static setup beside default IP address and subnet mask? It's
possible if you go into the advance properties for you wired adapters and on
the Wins tab enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP that it *might* help. Jack, Sooner
Al, Lem do you guys have any thoughts? Thanks

--
David Hettel

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone
to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in
E-mail or news groups.

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either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy, reliability
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"Alex" <> wrote in message
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> David,
>
> Thank you for the suggestion. It worked - though, temporarily.
> I set up the static IPs as you suggested, 192.168.1.xxx for the
> wireless, 192.168.3.yyy for the wired.
> Defined the subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 on all 4 addresses. Set the
> metrics to 20 on wired, 30 on wireless.
> I could see in the Task Manager (Networking tab) that computers were
> communicating via the wired.
>
> I started having intermittent internet connectivity issues, though -
> something that did not happen when the hub was not in the picture.
> Until, eventually, computers would just refuse to go out to the web
> (same symptoms on both). Disconnecting and reconnecting from/to the
> wireless network did not help. Turning the hub off always does...
>
> Any other suggestions? Thank you in advance!
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 26, 4:43 am, "David Hettel" <dah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You need to set metrics on both the wired and wireless card. The wired
>> cards
>> will need a static IP address, in a different IP address range than the
>> wireless cards (Wireless IP address 192.168.1.xxx and wired 192.168.3.xxx
>> with both using a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0) see
>> Jack's,http://www.ezlan.net/metrics.htmlfor help on the metrics
>>
>> --
>> David Hettel
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for
>> everyone
>> to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me
>> in
>> E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
>> Programhttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranty of any
>> kind,
>> either expressed or implied, made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability
>> or content of this post. The author shall not be liable for any direct,
>> indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of,
>> or
>> inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>>
>> "Alex" <avil...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello!
>>
>> > I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
>> > wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
>> > computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
>> > wireless network.
>>
>> > I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
>> > computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
>> > USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
>> > between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
>> > carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
>> > wireless USB for internet access.
>>
>> > I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
>> > (EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
>> > 1. Wireless network:
>> > 2 static IPs
>> > Router serves as gateway/DNS server
>> > Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)
>>
>> > 2. Wired Local Area network:
>> > Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
>> > router, etc.)
>> > As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
>> > connectivity...
>>
>> > What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
>> > and go to the internet WIRELESS?
>>
>> > Thank you in advance!!!- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>

Hi
Make two independent Networks and Put the Wire connection on its own subnet.
I.e. if the Wireless is on 191.168.1.x put the wire on it own with static
191.168.2.x
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Alex" <> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> Hello!
>
> I have two computers (Windows XP) which used to be connected via a
> wired router (regular Ethernet cards) to the internet. I had to move
> computers from the ISP outlet, and had to resort to setting up a
> wireless network.
>
> I have set up a wireless network with a Linksys WRT54GL router and two
> computers (sitting next to each other), both using individual wireless
> USB adapters. Since I routinely move files (and large ones as well)
> between the two, it would be beneficial to continue using Ethernet
> carts and maintain a wired connection for local interactions, and have
> wireless USB for internet access.
>
> I connected the two computers via a LinkSys 5-port workgroup hub
> (EFAH05W). The set-up is as follows, then:
> 1. Wireless network:
> 2 static IPs
> Router serves as gateway/DNS server
> Subnet mask is the same (255.255.255.0)
>
> 2. Wired Local Area network:
> Tried different options (static IP, dynamic IP - assigned by the
> router, etc.)
> As soon as wired becomes active, both computers lose internet
> connectivity...
>
> What can be done to get them to connect with each other through WIRED,
> and go to the internet WIRELESS?
>
> Thank you in advance!!!
>

David Hettel wrote:
> I've never tried this myself, personally I'd have used dynamic IP on the
> wireless, and static on the wired. Are you defining anything else for
> the wired in your static setup beside default IP address and subnet
> mask? It's possible if you go into the advance properties for you wired
> adapters and on the Wins tab enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP that it *might*
> help. Jack, Sooner Al, Lem do you guys have any thoughts? Thanks
>

This goes beyond my experience with networks, but I don't think metrics
are the answer to the OP's issue. As I understand metrics, they
represent the cost associated with using a particular network route.
Thus, given the choice of two routes to the same destination (e.g., a
wireless connection to the Internet gateway and a wired connection to
the Internet gateway), the route with the lowest metric is the one
that's used.

I've seen setting metrics suggested as a way to force the use of a wired
connection instead of a wireless connection when both are active.

OTOH, I don't think you can force a particular app (e.g., Windows
Explorer) to use a particular network connection.

OTOH, again, it seems to me as if the route to a particular IP is only
available over one NIC, a connection to that IP should go over that
route. As I said, however, this is beyond my knowledge of how networks
operate.

As to the intermittent operation, check the topology of the network
carefully. Is the hub connected to anything other than the NICs in the
two computers? Were you careful not to use the hub's uplink port?

I've cross-posted this to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web because
there are folks who spend more time there than here who know more about
networking.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP - Networking

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Thank you all for your recommendations.
It turned out to be a combination of faulty router (replaced via RMA)
and configuration...

The final set up worked fine as follows (for the other interested
parties):

1. Set up hard IPs for both wireless (192.168.1.xxx) and wired
(192.168.3.xxx) connections. Subnet mask is the same: 255.255.255.0
2. Default gateway and DNS server on the wireless is the router's IP
3. Interface and gateway metric on the wireless is 30 (any number
higher than the wired)
4. Interface metric on the wired is 20
5. File and printer sharing is turned on, on the wired only (on
wirless it is checked off)
6. Not sure whether this is needed, but in the advanced network
settings, wired has higher priority than wireless.

.... and magically, it is all working )

Thank you all, again!!!