Orange Live Box / LinksysWMP54G

Hello, anyone in here up to speed with WEP / WPA / TSIK / AES ...
and all that other gobbledygook connected with wireless

I've only had my Linksys WAG354G for a few months and it was a hardware
version 1.0 which I'm pretty sure means that it cannot download faster than
1mbps. The newer same model WAG354G adsl/2+ ...I think can download up to
24mbps but, I now don't need to buy one of those. ...unless I've got the
wrong end of the stick somewhere. ...But, that's not the stick I should be
rambling on about.

When I was using the above WAG354G adsl modem/router and sending wireless to
Dads PC downstairs to his pci card (wmp54g), they were both set to use WPA ,
which I understand is more secure that WEP.

Now I've just connected up my Orange Livebox, seeing as Orange were kind
enough to send it to me and upgrade me to 8meg BB, and charge me £3 a month
less ! ...after waiting for me to 'phone them up and ask about it after I'd
spotted it on their website !! ...but, that's another story !

I can't understand the menus in the Livebox, there only seems to be a slot
to type in a 26 digit hex. format WEP key.
There's some radio buttons to select:
WPA or WEP Security
WPA only
WEP only
No Security

I found http://www.orange.co.uk/time/livebox/security.htm
which doesn't explain very much and I haven't been able to find a "pairing"
button in the menus in the Livebox,
and there doesn't seem to be anything in the Orange box like the Linksys
firmware/software where you type in a passphrase and in a slot underneath a
hexadecimal type "key" is generated automatically.

In short I had to use the WEP setting in both PC's to get wireless to work,
and after doing that I changed the 'WPA only' radio button to 'WPA or WEP
Security' button, in the Livebox, and it's still working okay downstairs !
But, I have the feeling that WEP is being used and on both and I would like
them both to be using WPA ?

....any pointers gratefully accepted !

regards, Richard

RJK

The order of security capacity is.

No Security

MAC

WEP

WPA-PSK

WPA-AES

WPA2

Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html

WEP, WPA, and the Future - http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html

The security must be set according to lowest possible.

I.e. If parts of your system might be capable to do WPA2, but one device is
only capable to do WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP.

Jack (MVP-Networking).



"RJK" <> wrote in message
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> Hello, anyone in here up to speed with WEP / WPA / TSIK / AES ...
> and all that other gobbledygook connected with wireless
>
> I've only had my Linksys WAG354G for a few months and it was a hardware
> version 1.0 which I'm pretty sure means that it cannot download faster
> than 1mbps. The newer same model WAG354G adsl/2+ ...I think can download
> up to 24mbps but, I now don't need to buy one of those. ...unless I've
> got the wrong end of the stick somewhere. ...But, that's not the stick I
> should be rambling on about.
>
> When I was using the above WAG354G adsl modem/router and sending wireless
> to Dads PC downstairs to his pci card (wmp54g), they were both set to use
> WPA , which I understand is more secure that WEP.
>
> Now I've just connected up my Orange Livebox, seeing as Orange were kind
> enough to send it to me and upgrade me to 8meg BB, and charge me £3 a
> month less ! ...after waiting for me to 'phone them up and ask about it
> after I'd spotted it on their website !! ...but, that's another story !
>
> I can't understand the menus in the Livebox, there only seems to be a slot
> to type in a 26 digit hex. format WEP key.
> There's some radio buttons to select:
> WPA or WEP Security
> WPA only
> WEP only
> No Security
>
> I found http://www.orange.co.uk/time/livebox/security.htm
> which doesn't explain very much and I haven't been able to find a
> "pairing" button in the menus in the Livebox,
> and there doesn't seem to be anything in the Orange box like the Linksys
> firmware/software where you type in a passphrase and in a slot underneath
> a hexadecimal type "key" is generated automatically.
>
> In short I had to use the WEP setting in both PC's to get wireless to
> work, and after doing that I changed the 'WPA only' radio button to 'WPA
> or WEP Security' button, in the Livebox, and it's still working okay
> downstairs ! But, I have the feeling that WEP is being used and on both
> and I would like them both to be using WPA ?
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> ...any pointers gratefully accepted !
>
> regards, Richard
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).

Thanks Jack, much obliged.

I continued rummaging and found:-
http://forums.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/f...29&PN=1&TPN=33

....now, if this person knows what they're talking about, then it seems that
the one key serves both WEP and WPA, which would sort of answer why one can
select "WEP or WPA Security" in the Orange LiveBox menus. In other words,
there's not much in the Orange LiveBox menus and settings, and what is in
there, is ambiguous !

The Linksys firm/software is MUCH better written that this Orange thing !!!

regards, Richard




"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <> wrote in message
news:%23XJF%...
> The order of security capacity is.
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> No Security
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> MAC
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> WEP
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> WPA-PSK
>
> WPA-AES
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> WPA2
>
> Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
>
> WEP, WPA, and the Future - http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html
>
> The security must be set according to lowest possible.
>
> I.e. If parts of your system might be capable to do WPA2, but one device
> is only capable to do WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP.
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
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> "RJK" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hello, anyone in here up to speed with WEP / WPA / TSIK / AES ...
>> and all that other gobbledygook connected with wireless
>>
>> I've only had my Linksys WAG354G for a few months and it was a hardware
>> version 1.0 which I'm pretty sure means that it cannot download faster
>> than 1mbps. The newer same model WAG354G adsl/2+ ...I think can download
>> up to 24mbps but, I now don't need to buy one of those. ...unless I've
>> got the wrong end of the stick somewhere. ...But, that's not the stick
>> I should be rambling on about.
>>
>> When I was using the above WAG354G adsl modem/router and sending wireless
>> to Dads PC downstairs to his pci card (wmp54g), they were both set to use
>> WPA , which I understand is more secure that WEP.
>>
>> Now I've just connected up my Orange Livebox, seeing as Orange were kind
>> enough to send it to me and upgrade me to 8meg BB, and charge me £3 a
>> month less ! ...after waiting for me to 'phone them up and ask about it
>> after I'd spotted it on their website !! ...but, that's another story !
>>
>> I can't understand the menus in the Livebox, there only seems to be a
>> slot to type in a 26 digit hex. format WEP key.
>> There's some radio buttons to select:
>> WPA or WEP Security
>> WPA only
>> WEP only
>> No Security
>>
>> I found http://www.orange.co.uk/time/livebox/security.htm
>> which doesn't explain very much and I haven't been able to find a
>> "pairing" button in the menus in the Livebox,
>> and there doesn't seem to be anything in the Orange box like the Linksys
>> firmware/software where you type in a passphrase and in a slot underneath
>> a hexadecimal type "key" is generated automatically.
>>
>> In short I had to use the WEP setting in both PC's to get wireless to
>> work, and after doing that I changed the 'WPA only' radio button to 'WPA
>> or WEP Security' button, in the Livebox, and it's still working okay
>> downstairs ! But, I have the feeling that WEP is being used and on both
>> and I would like them both to be using WPA ?
>>
>> ...any pointers gratefully accepted !
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>> regards, Richard
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RJK