Re: Connection speed

Confused Student wrote:
> Hi,
> we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC (LAN)
> and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps to my dads
> but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs, eg. downloading
> off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is
> there anyway to increase the speed?
>
> in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so there
> must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and iv lowerd
> the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people using it, ive
> also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>
> any answers greatly appreciated,
>
> Richard
> --
> Confused

Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
I like
http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
speed is consistent.

My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
satisfaction. Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
optimally. I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get
only 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the
200-400K I was getting before.

I don't know why, just that it worked.
YMMV
mike

mike

Hello Confused Student

The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal speed
of your internet connection. You will not get much better performance unless
you get a higher nominal speed. When you do a test the result depends, cf
Mike in an earlier message, not only on your hardware & software but also
the statusof the site(s) you are accessing and of the internet at the time.

In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection. I just
tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given as 10 MB
nominal 6.8 MB actual. The Verizon test suggested by Mike rated the
connection at 3 MB.

Check using different file sizes and sites at
http://performance.toast.net/. To confirm the results download a known
file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
Average the results and you will get your download speed for that particular
time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion you need to do
this in the small hours from a site in your own country.

I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
John



"mike" <> wrote in message news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
> Confused Student wrote:
>> Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>> (LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>> to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>> eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>> is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>
>> in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>> there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>> iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>> using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>>
>> any answers greatly appreciated,
>>
>> Richard
>> --
>> Confused
>
> Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
> I like
> http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
> because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
> Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
> speed is consistent.
>
> My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying results.
> I went round and round and round with Verizon with no satisfaction. Every
> diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured optimally. I accidentally
> determined that changing the MTU setting to
> 1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get only
> 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
> was getting before.
>
> I don't know why, just that it worked.
> YMMV
> mike

John Butler

John Butler wrote:
> Hello Confused Student
>
> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal speed
> of your internet connection. You will not get much better performance unless
> you get a higher nominal speed. When you do a test the result depends, cf
> Mike in an earlier message, not only on your hardware & software but also
> the statusof the site(s) you are accessing and of the internet at the time.
>
> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection. I just
> tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given as 10 MB
> nominal 6.8 MB actual. The Verizon test suggested by Mike rated the
> connection at 3 MB.

Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's
'electrically close' to your location. Using a USA test site from UK is
likely not optimal.

My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause
my phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles
away. Everybody else on my block was not affected. But our 768K dsl
speeds are similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.

My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable. His connection is a solid
3M to the verizon test site.

If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from
going faster. I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same
wire using the same modem. If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
when fewer people are loading my area.
Yes??

If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
extraordinary congestion. They reason they have all those speed
disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
make sure you get it.

I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
we don't do something about this. It's like pulling into a gas station.
You pay for 10 gallons and get 6. "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
to give you 10 gallons. We just guarantee to charge you for it.
If you really need 10, you should pay for 30. That way, you'll
get 10 more often...maybe...
You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
cancellation fee if you do. And you have to get a new
gas tank ...installation extra..."
Grrrrr!!!

mike
>
> Check using different file sizes and sites at
> http://performance.toast.net/. To confirm the results download a known
> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that particular
> time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion you need to do
> this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>
> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
> John
>
>
>
> "mike" <> wrote in message news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>
>>Confused Student wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>>>to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>>>eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>>>is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>
>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected wirelessly.
>>>
>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>
>>>Richard
>>> --
>>>Confused
>>
>>Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
>>I like
>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>speed is consistent.
>>
>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying results.
>>I went round and round and round with Verizon with no satisfaction. Every
>>diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured optimally. I accidentally
>>determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get only
>>690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
>>was getting before.
>>
>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>YMMV
>>mike
>
>
>

mike

Mike

I agree with you.
If you look at Jack's post on 8th December it seems that it is quite
acceptable for a 10Mb connection never to actually deliver much more that 6
MB

"mike" <> wrote in message
news:boqeh.612$Ft4.283@trnddc02...
> John Butler wrote:
>> Hello Confused Student
>>
>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>> performance unless you get a higher nominal speed. When you do a test
>> the result depends, cf Mike in an earlier message, not only on your
>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>> and of the internet at the time.
>>
>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection. I
>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given as
>> 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual. The Verizon test suggested by Mike rated
>> the connection at 3 MB.
>
> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's 'electrically
> close' to your location. Using a USA test site from UK is
> likely not optimal.
>
> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause my
> phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles away.
> Everybody else on my block was not affected. But our 768K dsl speeds are
> similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>
> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable. His connection is a solid
> 3M to the verizon test site.
>
> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from going
> faster. I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same wire
> using the same modem. If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
> when fewer people are loading my area.
> Yes??
>
> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
> extraordinary congestion. They reason they have all those speed
> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
> make sure you get it.
>
> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
> we don't do something about this. It's like pulling into a gas station.
> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6. "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
> to give you 10 gallons. We just guarantee to charge you for it.
> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30. That way, you'll
> get 10 more often...maybe...
> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
> cancellation fee if you do. And you have to get a new
> gas tank ...installation extra..."
> Grrrrr!!!
>
> mike
>>
>> Check using different file sizes and sites at
>> http://performance.toast.net/. To confirm the results download a known
>> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
>> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that
>> particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion
>> you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>>
>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> "mike" <> wrote in message
>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>
>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and 100mps
>>>>to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of the PCs,
>>>>eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like antivirus etc.)
>>>>is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>
>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>
>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>> --
>>>>Confused
>>>
>>>Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your isp.
>>>I like
>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>speed is consistent.
>>>
>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>satisfaction. Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>optimally. I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get only
>>>690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the 200-400K I
>>>was getting before.
>>>
>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>YMMV
>>>mike
>>
>>

John Butler

Can you guarantee you got ten gallons of gas at the gas station? because gas
volume depends on ambient temperature and when the pump was last calibrated.
And if you bought a car that advertises 40mpg do you think you get that all
the time? I don't think so - lucky if you get it at all.
I agree that you should get close to the advertised speed that your internet
service provider says - if you can test it to one of their servers - but
after it goes out onto the internet who knows.














"John Butler" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Mike
>
> I agree with you.
> If you look at Jack's post on 8th December it seems that it is quite
> acceptable for a 10Mb connection never to actually deliver much more that
> 6 MB
>
> "mike" <> wrote in message
> news:boqeh.612$Ft4.283@trnddc02...
>> John Butler wrote:
>>> Hello Confused Student
>>>
>>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>>> performance unless you get a higher nominal speed. When you do a test
>>> the result depends, cf Mike in an earlier message, not only on your
>>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>>> and of the internet at the time.
>>>
>>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection. I
>>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given
>>> as 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual. The Verizon test suggested by Mike
>>> rated the connection at 3 MB.
>>
>> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's
>> 'electrically close' to your location. Using a USA test site from UK is
>> likely not optimal.
>>
>> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause
>> my phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles
>> away. Everybody else on my block was not affected. But our 768K dsl
>> speeds are similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>>
>> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable. His connection is a solid
>> 3M to the verizon test site.
>>
>> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from going
>> faster. I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
>> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same
>> wire using the same modem. If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
>> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
>> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
>> when fewer people are loading my area.
>> Yes??
>>
>> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
>> extraordinary congestion. They reason they have all those speed
>> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
>> make sure you get it.
>>
>> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
>> we don't do something about this. It's like pulling into a gas station.
>> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6. "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
>> to give you 10 gallons. We just guarantee to charge you for it.
>> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30. That way, you'll
>> get 10 more often...maybe...
>> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
>> cancellation fee if you do. And you have to get a new
>> gas tank ...installation extra..."
>> Grrrrr!!!
>>
>> mike
>>>
>>> Check using different file sizes and sites at
>>> http://performance.toast.net/. To confirm the results download a known
>>> file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several times.
>>> Average the results and you will get your download speed for that
>>> particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web congestion
>>> you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your own country.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "mike" <> wrote in message
>>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>>
>>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads PC
>>>>>(LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and
>>>>>100mps to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of
>>>>>the PCs, eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like
>>>>>antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>>
>>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100% and
>>>>>iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other people
>>>>>using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>>
>>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard
>>>>> --
>>>>>Confused
>>>>
>>>>Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your
>>>>isp.
>>>>I like
>>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
>>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>>speed is consistent.
>>>>
>>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>>satisfaction. Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>>optimally. I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get
>>>>only 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the
>>>>200-400K I was getting before.
>>>>
>>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>>YMMV
>>>>mike
>>>
>>>
>

Steve

Steve is right on target.

"Steve" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Can you guarantee you got ten gallons of gas at the gas station? because
> gas volume depends on ambient temperature and when the pump was last
> calibrated. And if you bought a car that advertises 40mpg do you think you
> get that all the time? I don't think so - lucky if you get it at all.
> I agree that you should get close to the advertised speed that your
> internet service provider says - if you can test it to one of their
> servers - but after it goes out onto the internet who knows.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Butler" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Mike
>>
>> I agree with you.
>> If you look at Jack's post on 8th December it seems that it is quite
>> acceptable for a 10Mb connection never to actually deliver much more that
>> 6 MB
>>
>> "mike" <> wrote in message
>> news:boqeh.612$Ft4.283@trnddc02...
>>> John Butler wrote:
>>>> Hello Confused Student
>>>>
>>>> The speed reports you are getting are not out of line with the nominal
>>>> speed of your internet connection. You will not get much better
>>>> performance unless you get a higher nominal speed. When you do a test
>>>> the result depends, cf Mike in an earlier message, not only on your
>>>> hardware & software but also the statusof the site(s) you are accessing
>>>> and of the internet at the time.
>>>>
>>>> In my own case in London UK I have a nominal 10 MB cable connection. I
>>>> just tested it with the tool provide by my ISP and the result is given
>>>> as 10 MB nominal 6.8 MB actual. The Verizon test suggested by Mike
>>>> rated the connection at 3 MB.
>>>
>>> Guess I should have stated that one should use a site that's
>>> 'electrically close' to your location. Using a USA test site from UK is
>>> likely not optimal.
>>>
>>> My phone wire takes a different path to the CO than mine...I know cause
>>> my phone was out for a week when they accidentally cut a cable miles
>>> away. Everybody else on my block was not affected. But our 768K dsl
>>> speeds are similar around 700K after the MTU=1000 hack.
>>>
>>> My neighbor on the other side has 3M cable. His connection is a solid
>>> 3M to the verizon test site.
>>>
>>> If I understand DSL, the speed is throttled down to prevent me from
>>> going faster. I'm provisioned at 864K to allow for system overhead.
>>> For an additional fee, Verizon will gladly sell me 1.5M over the same
>>> wire using the same modem. If they're restricting my pipe to 864K,
>>> I should damn well expect to get a solid 768K download speed from their
>>> very own test site "most of the time", and especially in the wee hours
>>> when fewer people are loading my area.
>>> Yes??
>>>
>>> If I were paying for 10M, I'd EXPECT to get 10M most of the time barring
>>> extraordinary congestion. They reason they have all those speed
>>> disclaimers is cause they have no intention spending any money to
>>> make sure you get it.
>>>
>>> I know one person can't do anything, but as a nation, I can't believe
>>> we don't do something about this. It's like pulling into a gas station.
>>> You pay for 10 gallons and get 6. "Sorry buddy, we don't guarantee
>>> to give you 10 gallons. We just guarantee to charge you for it.
>>> If you really need 10, you should pay for 30. That way, you'll
>>> get 10 more often...maybe...
>>> You're welcome to try the station across the street. There's a $500
>>> cancellation fee if you do. And you have to get a new
>>> gas tank ...installation extra..."
>>> Grrrrr!!!
>>>
>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> Check using different file sizes and sites at
>>>> http://performance.toast.net/. To confirm the results download a
>>>> known file size 10 MB and time the download with a stopwatch, several
>>>> times. Average the results and you will get your download speed for
>>>> that particular time of day and date. To avoid the effects of web
>>>> congestion you need to do this in the small hours from a site in your
>>>> own country.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps dispel the confusion.
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "mike" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:EXZdh.187$dh.62@trnddc03...
>>>>
>>>>>Confused Student wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, we have 1MB broadband going through a wireless router to my dads
>>>>>>PC (LAN) and my PC (wireless), the network can do 54mps to my pc and
>>>>>>100mps to my dads but the max speed we can get through either one of
>>>>>>the PCs, eg. downloading off the internet (say free software like
>>>>>>antivirus etc.) is onli 59KBs!! is there anyway to increase the speed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>in task manager, it says the utilization is onli (at max) about 2% so
>>>>>>there must be more usage out of 1mb... and my connection is at 100%
>>>>>>and iv lowerd the signal level and have a network pass to stop other
>>>>>>people using it, ive also checked the router and only i am connected
>>>>>>wirelessly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>any answers greatly appreciated,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>Confused
>>>>>
>>>>>Lots of stuff affects speed. Use a speed test site provided by your
>>>>>isp.
>>>>>I like
>>>>>http://infospeed.verizon.net/speedte...edtest500k.asp
>>>>>because it doesn't require me to load flash or java to run it.
>>>>>Run it multiple times at different times of day to see if your
>>>>>speed is consistent.
>>>>>
>>>>>My Verizon 768k DSL was doing about half that with wildly varying
>>>>>results. I went round and round and round with Verizon with no
>>>>>satisfaction. Every diagnostic I ran told me that I was configured
>>>>>optimally. I accidentally determined that changing the MTU setting to
>>>>>1000 doubled my speed and made it much more consistent. I still get
>>>>>only 690K out of my 768 connection, but it's lots better than the
>>>>>200-400K I was getting before.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know why, just that it worked.
>>>>>YMMV
>>>>>mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>

John Butler