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Hi all,
My 1st visit to this NG. Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here!  , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university or other quals and no commercial background. [Brief background...sorry!!!] I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same company. In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components to provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our WLAN. Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. ............................... So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best choice! I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking for...don't you! All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. Kind regards, Phil |
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Hi Phil,
If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. Terence Rabe --- "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi all, > > My 1st visit to this NG. > > Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! , > I have no background in software development...i.e. no university or other > quals and no commercial background. > > [Brief background...sorry!!!] > I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for > whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was tinkering > with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my then employer > which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via RS232 to act as a > data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same company. > > In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a > small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my > current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows > service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components to > provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our > WLAN. > > Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 > although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are > whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. > .............................. > > So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting > to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so > cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary > (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD > and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going through > a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that learning > method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best choice! > > I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the > UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences > with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it > alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking > for...don't you! > > All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Phil > |
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Thanks Terence,
Cost is unfortunately an issue but perhaps an investment dependant upon others experiences and recommendations. I'm just not convinced whether you 'get what you pay for' with the distance learning route! Cheers, Phil "Terence Rabe" <mct@hotmail in the UK> wrote in message news:... > Hi Phil, > > If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for > books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you > for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. > > Terence Rabe > --- > "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Hi all, >> >> My 1st visit to this NG. >> >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! >> , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university or >> other quals and no commercial background. >> >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for >> whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was >> tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my >> then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via >> RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same >> company. >> >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my >> current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows >> service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components to >> provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our >> WLAN. >> >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 >> although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are >> whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. >> .............................. >> >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting >> to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going >> through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that >> learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best >> choice! >> >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the >> UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences >> with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it >> alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking >> for...don't you! >> >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Phil >> > > |
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Get the Microsoft self study bookset (290,291,293, and 294) to pass the OS
aspect of the MCDBA. They've helped me immensely. As far as the 228 and 229 I've been less impressed by the Microsoft titles, but I'm currenty done with the MCSA and more than halfway through the MCSE, and exactly halfway through the MCDBA requirements. Have some faith, and stick to your guns - you can do it. Keith Lindsey "PHILinUK" wrote: > Thanks Terence, > > Cost is unfortunately an issue but perhaps an investment dependant upon > others experiences and recommendations. I'm just not convinced whether you > 'get what you pay for' with the distance learning route! > > Cheers, Phil > > "Terence Rabe" <mct@hotmail in the UK> wrote in message > news:... > > Hi Phil, > > > > If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for > > books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you > > for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. > > > > Terence Rabe > > --- > > "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message > > news:... > >> Hi all, > >> > >> My 1st visit to this NG. > >> > >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! > >> , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university or > >> other quals and no commercial background. > >> > >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] > >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for > >> whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was > >> tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my > >> then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via > >> RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same > >> company. > >> > >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a > >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my > >> current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows > >> service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components to > >> provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our > >> WLAN. > >> > >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 > >> although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are > >> whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. > >> .............................. > >> > >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting > >> to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so > >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary > >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD > >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going > >> through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that > >> learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best > >> choice! > >> > >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the > >> UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences > >> with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it > >> alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking > >> for...don't you! > >> > >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Phil > >> > > > > > > > |
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Thanks Keith, good pep talk...I like it!!
The bookset referred to, dumb question but can this be bought as a study guide 'set of 4' and can you recommend a supplier? Also, did you go it completely alone and book in for the tests yourself? Cheers, Phil "klindsey" <> wrote in message news  DE60583-4FE5-407B-AEF3-...> Get the Microsoft self study bookset (290,291,293, and 294) to pass the OS > aspect of the MCDBA. They've helped me immensely. As far as the 228 and > 229 > I've been less impressed by the Microsoft titles, but I'm currenty done > with > the MCSA and more than halfway through the MCSE, and exactly halfway > through > the MCDBA requirements. Have some faith, and stick to your guns - you > can > do it. > > Keith Lindsey > > "PHILinUK" wrote: > >> Thanks Terence, >> >> Cost is unfortunately an issue but perhaps an investment dependant upon >> others experiences and recommendations. I'm just not convinced whether >> you >> 'get what you pay for' with the distance learning route! >> >> Cheers, Phil >> >> "Terence Rabe" <mct@hotmail in the UK> wrote in message >> news:... >> > Hi Phil, >> > >> > If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for >> > books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you >> > for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. >> > >> > Terence Rabe >> > --- >> > "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message >> > news:... >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> My 1st visit to this NG. >> >> >> >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! >> >> , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university>> >> or >> >> other quals and no commercial background. >> >> >> >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] >> >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for >> >> whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was >> >> tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my >> >> then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via >> >> RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the >> >> same >> >> company. >> >> >> >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and >> >> a >> >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my >> >> current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows >> >> service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components >> >> to >> >> provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via >> >> our >> >> WLAN. >> >> >> >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 >> >> although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences >> >> are >> >> whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. >> >> .............................. >> >> >> >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and >> >> wanting >> >> to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc >> >> so >> >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary >> >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD >> >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going >> >> through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of >> >> that >> >> learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best >> >> choice! >> >> >> >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in >> >> the >> >> UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any >> >> experiences >> >> with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it >> >> alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking >> >> for...don't you! >> >> >> >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Phil >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> |
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yeah,yeah and yeah - I found the set on amazon.uk for about 70 pounds if you
want to email me () with your address I can even give some other practice tests that I found helpful also. I've taken 4 tests already and am pretty happy with my results. I have a BS in Computer Science and probably more experience than many (but experience without any certifications aren't anywhere near as valuable)and that has helped - but truly the only real preparation is to study the books and take the practice tests until you feel you know the material well. The Microsoft Press books aren't the only ones out there either and Amazon is a gret resource. Keith "PHILinUK" wrote: > Thanks Keith, good pep talk...I like it!! > > The bookset referred to, dumb question but can this be bought as a study > guide 'set of 4' and can you recommend a supplier? Also, did you go it > completely alone and book in for the tests yourself? > > Cheers, Phil > > > "klindsey" <> wrote in message > news DE60583-4FE5-407B-AEF3-...> > Get the Microsoft self study bookset (290,291,293, and 294) to pass the OS > > aspect of the MCDBA. They've helped me immensely. As far as the 228 and > > 229 > > I've been less impressed by the Microsoft titles, but I'm currenty done > > with > > the MCSA and more than halfway through the MCSE, and exactly halfway > > through > > the MCDBA requirements. Have some faith, and stick to your guns - you > > can > > do it. > > > > Keith Lindsey > > > > "PHILinUK" wrote: > > > >> Thanks Terence, > >> > >> Cost is unfortunately an issue but perhaps an investment dependant upon > >> others experiences and recommendations. I'm just not convinced whether > >> you > >> 'get what you pay for' with the distance learning route! > >> > >> Cheers, Phil > >> > >> "Terence Rabe" <mct@hotmail in the UK> wrote in message > >> news:... > >> > Hi Phil, > >> > > >> > If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for > >> > books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you > >> > for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. > >> > > >> > Terence Rabe > >> > --- > >> > "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message > >> > news:... > >> >> Hi all, > >> >> > >> >> My 1st visit to this NG. > >> >> > >> >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! > >> >> , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university> >> >> or > >> >> other quals and no commercial background. > >> >> > >> >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] > >> >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for > >> >> whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was > >> >> tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my > >> >> then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via > >> >> RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the > >> >> same > >> >> company. > >> >> > >> >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and > >> >> a > >> >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my > >> >> current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows > >> >> service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components > >> >> to > >> >> provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via > >> >> our > >> >> WLAN. > >> >> > >> >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 > >> >> although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences > >> >> are > >> >> whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. > >> >> .............................. > >> >> > >> >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and > >> >> wanting > >> >> to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc > >> >> so > >> >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary > >> >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD > >> >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going > >> >> through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of > >> >> that > >> >> learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best > >> >> choice! > >> >> > >> >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in > >> >> the > >> >> UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any > >> >> experiences > >> >> with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it > >> >> alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking > >> >> for...don't you! > >> >> > >> >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. > >> >> > >> >> Kind regards, > >> >> > >> >> Phil > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > |
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after looking further it's more like 90 pounds but it is there.
Keith "klindsey" wrote: > yeah,yeah and yeah - I found the set on amazon.uk for about 70 pounds if you > want to email me () with your address I can even give > some other practice tests that I found helpful also. I've taken 4 tests > already and am pretty happy with my results. I have a BS in Computer Science > and probably more experience than many (but experience without any > certifications aren't anywhere near as valuable)and that has helped - but > truly the only real preparation is to study the books and take the practice > tests until you feel you know the material well. The Microsoft Press books > aren't the only ones out there either and Amazon is a gret resource. > > Keith > > "PHILinUK" wrote: > > > Thanks Keith, good pep talk...I like it!! > > > > The bookset referred to, dumb question but can this be bought as a study > > guide 'set of 4' and can you recommend a supplier? Also, did you go it > > completely alone and book in for the tests yourself? > > > > Cheers, Phil > > > > > > "klindsey" <> wrote in message > > news DE60583-4FE5-407B-AEF3-...> > > Get the Microsoft self study bookset (290,291,293, and 294) to pass the OS > > > aspect of the MCDBA. They've helped me immensely. As far as the 228 and > > > 229 > > > I've been less impressed by the Microsoft titles, but I'm currenty done > > > with > > > the MCSA and more than halfway through the MCSE, and exactly halfway > > > through > > > the MCDBA requirements. Have some faith, and stick to your guns - you > > > can > > > do it. > > > > > > Keith Lindsey > > > > > > "PHILinUK" wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Terence, > > >> > > >> Cost is unfortunately an issue but perhaps an investment dependant upon > > >> others experiences and recommendations. I'm just not convinced whether > > >> you > > >> 'get what you pay for' with the distance learning route! > > >> > > >> Cheers, Phil > > >> > > >> "Terence Rabe" <mct@hotmail in the UK> wrote in message > > >> news:... > > >> > Hi Phil, > > >> > > > >> > If cost is a major drawback, an option is self study. Check online for > > >> > books (tutorials and study guides) specifically geared to preparing you > > >> > for the MCAD and MCSD certifications. Google and eBay are your friends. > > >> > > > >> > Terence Rabe > > >> > --- > > >> > "PHILinUK" <> wrote in message > > >> > news:... > > >> >> Hi all, > > >> >> > > >> >> My 1st visit to this NG. > > >> >> > > >> >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! > > >> >> , I have no background in software development...i.e. no university> > >> >> or > > >> >> other quals and no commercial background. > > >> >> > > >> >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] > > >> >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for > > >> >> whatever reason never progressed into training/employment. I was > > >> >> tinkering with VB5/6 some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my > > >> >> then employer which interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via > > >> >> RS232 to act as a data logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the > > >> >> same > > >> >> company. > > >> >> > > >> >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and > > >> >> a > > >> >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my > > >> >> current employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows > > >> >> service and sql, as well as including the crystal reports components > > >> >> to > > >> >> provide output. This was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via > > >> >> our > > >> >> WLAN. > > >> >> > > >> >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 > > >> >> although I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences > > >> >> are > > >> >> whilst employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. > > >> >> .............................. > > >> >> > > >> >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and > > >> >> wanting > > >> >> to find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc > > >> >> so > > >> >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary > > >> >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD > > >> >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going > > >> >> through a distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of > > >> >> that > > >> >> learning method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best > > >> >> choice! > > >> >> > > >> >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in > > >> >> the > > >> >> UK. Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any > > >> >> experiences > > >> >> with distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it > > >> >> alone and book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking > > >> >> for...don't you! > > >> >> > > >> >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. > > >> >> > > >> >> Kind regards, > > >> >> > > >> >> Phil > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > |
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VB 6.0 is the undisputed GOD of programming software. Do yourself a
favour and give anything that ends in ".NET" a wide berth, every version of this garbage continues to get worse. If you feel you need to move away from VB 6.0 (not a nice thought I know), then you could consider Delphi - a more stable product than any MS offerings. Hope this helps The Grand Master PHILinUK wrote: > Hi all, > > My 1st visit to this NG. > > Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! , I> have no background in software development...i.e. no university or other > quals and no commercial background. > > [Brief background...sorry!!!] > I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for whatever > reason never progressed into training/employment. I was tinkering with VB5/6 > some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my then employer which > interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via RS232 to act as a data > logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same company. > > In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a > small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my current > employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows service and sql, > as well as including the crystal reports components to provide output. This > was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our WLAN. > > Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 although > I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are whilst > employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. > .............................. > > So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting to > find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so > cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary > (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD > and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going through a > distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that learning > method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best choice! > > I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the UK. > Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences with > distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it alone and > book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking for...don't you! > > > All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. > > Kind regards, > > Phil |
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Are you for real?
In what way excactly is Delphi (any version) better than C# 2005? Before you answer I should tell you that my experience with Delphi spans from Turbo Pascal 4 (and TASM...), through Borland Pascal for Windows, Delphi 1-Delphi 2005. .NET from VS7 beta 1. Please don't say VB 6 is better than VB.NET 2005, it is just silly. BTW: If you are comparing apples with apples you should compare .NET with VCL and Delphi with VB. 53/Regular programmer (and irregular manager) "Master Programmer" <> wrote in message news: ups.com... > VB 6.0 is the undisputed GOD of programming software. Do yourself a > favour and give anything that ends in ".NET" a wide berth, every > version of this garbage continues to get worse. > > If you feel you need to move away from VB 6.0 (not a nice thought I > know), then you could consider Delphi - a more stable product than any > MS offerings. > > > Hope this helps > The Grand Master > > > > PHILinUK wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> My 1st visit to this NG. >> >> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! >> , I>> have no background in software development...i.e. no university or other >> quals and no commercial background. >> >> [Brief background...sorry!!!] >> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for >> whatever >> reason never progressed into training/employment. I was tinkering with >> VB5/6 >> some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my then employer which >> interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via RS232 to act as a data >> logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same company. >> >> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a >> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my >> current >> employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows service and >> sql, >> as well as including the crystal reports components to provide output. >> This >> was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our WLAN. >> >> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 >> although >> I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are whilst >> employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. >> .............................. >> >> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and wanting >> to >> find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so >> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary >> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD >> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going >> through a >> distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that learning >> method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best choice! >> >> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the >> UK. >> Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences >> with >> distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it alone >> and >> book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking for...don't >> you! >> >> >> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Phil > |
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Come on fellas.......just when I thought I had it in the bag!!
To be honest, all you guys have a lot more programming history (at least it sounds like it) than me! I remember many a public slagging of vb (all versions) by C programmers/tech authors but, it 'seems' that with .net and the CLR & MSIL the capabilities are almost identical. I like (my limited view) what I've seen with vb.net 2003. I like the more simpler access to windows services as well as web services and incorporating remoting. I've a lot to learn but I also believe that .net (at least for vb) has made it more fun!!!! I know, I'm sad. Carry on the debate though....I'm sure you'll get much more colourful comments Phil "Thor" <> wrote in message news:3B827180-732D-4036-A373-... > Are you for real? > > In what way excactly is Delphi (any version) better than C# 2005? > Before you answer I should tell you that my experience with Delphi spans > from Turbo Pascal 4 (and TASM...), through Borland Pascal for Windows, > Delphi 1-Delphi 2005. .NET from VS7 beta 1. > > Please don't say VB 6 is better than VB.NET 2005, it is just silly. > BTW: If you are comparing apples with apples you should compare .NET with > VCL and Delphi with VB. > > 53/Regular programmer (and irregular manager) > > "Master Programmer" <> wrote in message > news: ups.com... >> VB 6.0 is the undisputed GOD of programming software. Do yourself a >> favour and give anything that ends in ".NET" a wide berth, every >> version of this garbage continues to get worse. >> >> If you feel you need to move away from VB 6.0 (not a nice thought I >> know), then you could consider Delphi - a more stable product than any >> MS offerings. >> >> >> Hope this helps >> The Grand Master >> >> >> >> PHILinUK wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> My 1st visit to this NG. >>> >>> Unlike perhaps most of you guys ( I know I'm making assumptions here! >>> , I>>> have no background in software development...i.e. no university or other >>> quals and no commercial background. >>> >>> [Brief background...sorry!!!] >>> I've been interested in programming since school (now 40!) but for >>> whatever >>> reason never progressed into training/employment. I was tinkering with >>> VB5/6 >>> some 6yrs ago (I think) and wrote an app. for my then employer which >>> interfaced a PC with a HP digital multimeter via RS232 to act as a data >>> logger. I did various VBA admin. apps for the same company. >>> >>> In the last perhaps 3yrs I've been learning/writing code in VB.Net and a >>> small amount in ASP.Net. I've worked through a dozen books. With my >>> current >>> employer I wrote an app. that used .net remoting, a windows service and >>> sql, >>> as well as including the crystal reports components to provide output. >>> This >>> was used by maybe 8 engineers across the UK via our WLAN. >>> >>> Additional I enjoy working with databases and using SQL Server 2005 >>> although >>> I've got a long way to go. Also note the above experiences are whilst >>> employed in non-IT/software roles....all work done at home. >>> .............................. >>> >>> So, here I am in the UK as miserable as sin in my present job and >>> wanting to >>> find a way into software writing! I have a mortgage, family etc etc so >>> cannot throw myself into full-time education or take a graduate salary >>> (unfortunately!). I've looked into getting some MS cert's such as MCSD >>> and/or MCDBA but unfortunately they cost thousands of pounds going >>> through a >>> distance learning provider......I don't like the idea of that learning >>> method as such and I also wonder if this is the right/best choice! >>> >>> I'd really appreciate some helpful experiences, especially anyone in the >>> UK. >>> Any comments about MS certs helping to find a job.....any experiences >>> with >>> distance learning, is it a waste of time?..is it better to go it alone >>> and >>> book into the test centre?.......You know what I'm looking for...don't >>> you! >>> >>> >>> All responses will be read with interest and many thanks in advance. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Phil >> > |
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