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Old 10-28-2006, 10:56 PM   #11
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"Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
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> David Hettel <> wrote:
>
>> I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the
>> manual
>> my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC.

>
> May I suggest looking for the file
>
> F5D7010-WPA Addendum.pdf
>
> (if that's the adapter you're using) on the Belkin site?
>
> : Setting up WPA in Windows XP
> :
> : In order to use WPA, ensure you are using "Windows wireless network
> : utility" instead of "Belkin Wireless Utility" by doing the following:
> :
> : 1. Under Windows XP, click "Start > Control Panel > Network
> : Connections".
> :
> : 2. Right-click on "Wireless Network Connection", and select
> : "Properties".
> :
> : 3. Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> : settings" box is checked.


Hello Axel,

I am using a F5D7010 but I cannot find the pdf you name, only drivers and
flash install guides.
I am using WEP not WPA should that make a difference?
When I try and use WZC I get the message that windows cannot configure this
wireless connection etc., I can't even view the wireless networks.
I tried "Use Windows to configure etc"., in Control Panel and the card just
goes dead.
I then put the password into the "key box" in WZC and it began to acquire an
address, this took what seemed like a few minutes, but it eventually woke
the card up and connected. I then exited the Belkin utility.
I am going to disable the Belkin Utility at startup now and see what
happens.

Regards

Mike H




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Old 10-28-2006, 11:12 PM   #12
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Thanks to everone who replied, I have been asleep all night and will
get to this later today.

thanks again

regards

Daniel
"Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send >
wrote in message news:ei0eai$5cv$1$...
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <> wrote in message
> news:uWWizts%...
>> Hi
>> I am not familiar with Belkin's card (I have Belkin Routers, but No
>> cards). However, what you describe does not appear to be "Normal"
>> Behavior.
>> I would suggest that you log to Belkin's support and look for the card
>> page and the faq (if any), or and contact Belkin Support
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>

> (snip)
>
> Many thanks Jack and David, I have tried the FAQ's on the Belkin site
> without success, so it looks like a 'phonecall is in order ;(
>
> Again, many thanks
>
> Mike H
>





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Old 10-28-2006, 11:18 PM   #13
Axel Hammerschmidt
 
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"Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send >
wrote:

<snip>

> I am using a F5D7010 but I cannot find the pdf you name, only drivers and
> flash install guides.


http://tinyurl.com/v994b

or

http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...=F5D7010&mode=


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Old 10-28-2006, 11:40 PM   #14
Mike Hyndman
 
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"Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send >
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I am using a F5D7010 but I cannot find the pdf you name, only drivers and
>> flash install guides.

>
> http://tinyurl.com/v994b
>
> or
>
> http://web.belkin.com/support/downlo...=F5D7010&mode=


Many thanks Axel, couldn't see for looking, been a long day.

Regards

Mike H




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Old 10-28-2006, 11:40 PM   #15
Daniel
 
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Axel wrote

Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
: screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
: settings" box is checked.

Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
that Belkin removed it.

Frustrating thig is that one PC works well the other is the problematic one,

This morning I tried to send a 8Gig size folder across the network, it
started well
at 54Mbps then slowly died untill it lost the connection,.

cheers

Daniel
"Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
news:1hnxwjt.1b391hb1gahgriN%...
> David Hettel <> wrote:
>
>> I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the
>> manual
>> my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC.

>
> May I suggest looking for the file
>
> F5D7010-WPA Addendum.pdf
>
> (if that's the adapter you're using) on the Belkin site?
>
> : Setting up WPA in Windows XP
> :
> : In order to use WPA, ensure you are using "Windows wireless network
> : utility" instead of "Belkin Wireless Utility" by doing the following:
> :
> : 1. Under Windows XP, click "Start > Control Panel > Network
> : Connections".
> :
> : 2. Right-click on "Wireless Network Connection", and select
> : "Properties".
> :
> : 3. Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> : settings" box is checked.





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Old 10-29-2006, 12:40 AM   #16
Axel Hammerschmidt
 
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"Daniel" <none@none> wrote:

> Axel wrote
>
> : Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> : settings" box is checked.
>
> Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
> that Belkin removed it.


Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?


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Old 10-29-2006, 02:30 AM   #17
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Not a problem for me. I don't think one can have too much useful
information, you're an MVP that says a lot about your technical knowledge.
I'm simply here to help where I can, and give a little back to the comunity.
I willingly admit I don't have all the answers, and my way is not the only
way or indeed necessarily the best way for all.

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"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <> wrote in message
news:%23oJ4%237s%.. .
> LOL, David.
> It seems that you posted while I was typing.
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "David Hettel" <> wrote in message
> news:Ovv%235ps%...
>>I did a quick search on the Belkin site and based on page 15 of the manual
>>my guess is Belkin did not choose to write drivers that support WZC. I
>>would suggest that you contact Belkin Tech support and see if they tell
>>you it should work. Sorry wish I had better news.
>>
>> --
>> David Hettel
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
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>>
>> "Mike Hyndman" <tell me yours and I'll send >
>> wrote in message news:ei04or$sfo$1$...
>>>
>>> "David Hettel" <> wrote in message
>>> news:u8iZzAp%...
>>>> Well you might want to look at the this page then:
>>>> http://www.ezlan.net/wzc.html
>>>> --
>>>> David Hettel
>>>>
>>>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>>>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>>>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "Daniel" <none@none> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23OmVhXl%...
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks, something is amiss here, when I right click on
>>>>> the wireless icon and select properties, there is no Wireless Network
>>>>> tab,
>>>>> the only tabs are General and Advanced?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea what is wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>> "David Hettel" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eyRX6Rl%...
>>>>>> Control Panel | Network Connections | Right click on the wireless
>>>>>> icon | Click on Properties | Click on the Wireless Networks (tab) |
>>>>>> Check "Use Windows to configure my wireless network settings"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David Hettel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>>>>>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>>>>>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daniel" <none@none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uxemCUk%...
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have Windows XP home and a Belkin Wireless Network,
>>>>>>> where do I go to let Windows manage the Netwoks?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe there is a setting somewhere in Windows but I cannot find
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> I also use a Belkin laptop card and it is a bloody nightmare getting it
>>> to acquire and maintain its connection, it eventually gets an address
>>> from the router, has it for about ten minutes then loses it again, the
>>> IP address goes to 0.0.0.0. I have even tried setting the alternate TCP/
>>> IP address page to a fixed address, but it even loses this. The card is
>>> "managed " by the Belkin wireless utility but WZC is also running and
>>> tries to acquire the address at boot up, If I disable WZC as recommended
>>> by ezlan.net, the Belkin utility exit also. I then cannot restart the
>>> Belkin utility until I enable WZC, then if I try and get WZC to manage
>>> the connection I get the message that Windows cannot do this and I must
>>> use the software that came with the card.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Mike H .
>>>

>>
>>

>
>





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Old 10-29-2006, 03:54 AM   #18
Daniel
 
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"Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
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> "Daniel" <none@none> wrote:
>
>> Axel wrote
>>
>> : Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
>> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
>> : settings" box is checked.
>>
>> Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
>> that Belkin removed it.

>
> Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?


Hi

I cannot follow the instructions on the Ezlan page because I cannot disable
the
Belkin Utility.
The Belkin manual says the right click on the Belkin icon on the system
tray, but when I
do that nothing happens??

Also I cannot follow the Belkin set-up procedure because when I right click
on "Wireless network connection" and select "Properties" there is no
Wireless Network Tab.

I tries disabling WZC services and also tried resetting it to Manual, it
just reverts to Automatic when I reboot.

Man, this is so frustrating.

cheers

Daniel




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Old 10-29-2006, 08:42 AM   #19
Axel Hammerschmidt
 
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"Daniel" <none@none> wrote:

> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
> news:1hny4k8.hbykdu12gmxo0N%...
> > "Daniel" <none@none> wrote:
> >
> >> Axel wrote
> >>
> >> : Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
> >> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
> >> : settings" box is checked.
> >>
> >> Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
> >> that Belkin removed it.

> >
> > Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?

>
> Hi
>
> I cannot follow the instructions on the Ezlan page because I cannot
> disable the Belkin Utility.
> The Belkin manual says the right click on the Belkin icon on the system
> tray, but when I do that nothing happens??
>
> Also I cannot follow the Belkin set-up procedure because when I right
> click on "Wireless network connection" and select "Properties" there is no
> Wireless Network Tab.
>
> I tries disabling WZC services and also tried resetting it to Manual, it
> just reverts to Automatic when I reboot.
>
> Man, this is so frustrating.


I think you should un-install the whole "package" from Belkin with the
uninstall utility that comes with the Belkin software. Reboot and insert
the PC Card. Windows will find the new hardware and offer to find a
driver. This way you avoid installing the Belkin utility.

What you do then depends on if Windows still has the driver somewhere in
a cache on your HDD. In case it does, follow the procedure until you are
asked accept the driver Windows finds to install. Now you can continue
in two ways, by accepting the diver Windows finds and updating the
driver later on; or not accepting and going back and choose a driver
manually.

You should already have downloaded the latest driver from Belkins site
(be carefull here - Belkin has 5 or 6 different driver versions for
their F5D7010 cards on the site. Look for a sticker on the card to find
the correct version - mine says VER.1314yy - but I'm not sure if that
means ver 1. It's confusing!) and preferably be installing that driver.

Then activate WZC, now hopefully without the Belkin utility being
somewhere on your computer and with the missing tab back on the network
control panel.


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Old 10-29-2006, 10:24 AM   #20
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"Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
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> "Daniel" <none@none> wrote:
>
>> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <> wrote in message
>> news:1hny4k8.hbykdu12gmxo0N%...
>> > "Daniel" <none@none> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Axel wrote
>> >>
>> >> : Clicking on the "Wireless Networks" tab will display the following
>> >> : screen. Ensure the "Use Windows to configure my wireless network
>> >> : settings" box is checked.
>> >>
>> >> Problem is no such Tab exists in my system on either PC, I would guess
>> >> that Belkin removed it.
>> >
>> > Have you been and had a look at ezlan.net?

>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I cannot follow the instructions on the Ezlan page because I cannot
>> disable the Belkin Utility.
>> The Belkin manual says the right click on the Belkin icon on the system
>> tray, but when I do that nothing happens??
>>
>> Also I cannot follow the Belkin set-up procedure because when I right
>> click on "Wireless network connection" and select "Properties" there is
>> no
>> Wireless Network Tab.
>>
>> I tries disabling WZC services and also tried resetting it to Manual, it
>> just reverts to Automatic when I reboot.
>>
>> Man, this is so frustrating.

>
> I think you should un-install the whole "package" from Belkin with the
> uninstall utility that comes with the Belkin software. Reboot and insert
> the PC Card. Windows will find the new hardware and offer to find a
> driver. This way you avoid installing the Belkin utility.
>
> What you do then depends on if Windows still has the driver somewhere in
> a cache on your HDD. In case it does, follow the procedure until you are
> asked accept the driver Windows finds to install. Now you can continue
> in two ways, by accepting the diver Windows finds and updating the
> driver later on; or not accepting and going back and choose a driver
> manually.
>
> You should already have downloaded the latest driver from Belkins site
> (be carefull here - Belkin has 5 or 6 different driver versions for
> their F5D7010 cards on the site. Look for a sticker on the card to find
> the correct version - mine says VER.1314yy - but I'm not sure if that
> means ver 1. It's confusing!) and preferably be installing that driver.
>
> Then activate WZC, now hopefully without the Belkin utility being
> somewhere on your computer and with the missing tab back on the network
> control panel.


Axel,

I tried that a while back, the Belkin CD not only installs the network
monitor utility but also the card driver. Uninstalling the Belkin software
will uninstall both utility and driver. Inserting the card to let windows
sort out the diver results in being asked to insert the Belkin CD and that
just loads the whole thing back in again. Must admit, I never tried looking
for just a driver folder on the CD though.
Daniel,
What happens when you right click on teh Belkin icon? Do you not get the
option to "exit" the utility?
You can also prevent this utility from starting by typing msconfig in the
"Run" dialogue box, select the Startup tab and uncheck the Belkin tick box.

Regards
Mike H






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