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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:



>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>news:...
>>>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily, it covers the
>>>>>> high system spec demands of HD-DVD and Blueray playback. It also links
>>>>>> out to a cool program that will analyze your system and tell you if
>>>>>> your system is ready for the new technology or if you better start
>>>>>> shopping for a new PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that provides some details
>>>>>> on system details and if they are powerful enough to run HD-DVD or
>>>>>> Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be surprised, if watching a video
>>>>>> will exceed your current system specs."
>>>>
>>>>>I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their test tool.
>>>>>My computer is more powerful than most but it still doesn't pass
>>>>>the tests. The adoption rate for either if these new formats is
>>>>>going to be real low for a long time when people can't even use
>>>>>them in a relatively high-end PC.
>>>>
>>>>>I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years because it
>>>>>is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and 320 GB HD.
>>>>>These specs are still not enough to get the job done. The entry
>>>>>level for these new disks is simply too high for me to be
>>>>>interested.
>>>>
>>>> I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough to handle dvd
>>>> video;
>>>> a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a 2.5-3.0 ghz
>>>> p4
>>>> would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be such a
>>>> steaming
>>>> pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to handle the
>>>> file
>>>> and
>>>> video requirements.
>>
>>>Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame is HUGE with
>>>HD.
>>
>> That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
>>
>> NOT.

>NOT

Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution are as
common as dirt.

"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>
>
>
>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>>news:...
>>>>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily, it covers the
>>>>>>> high system spec demands of HD-DVD and Blueray playback. It also
>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>> out to a cool program that will analyze your system and tell you if
>>>>>>> your system is ready for the new technology or if you better start
>>>>>>> shopping for a new PC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that provides some
>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>> on system details and if they are powerful enough to run HD-DVD or
>>>>>>> Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be surprised, if watching a
>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>> will exceed your current system specs."
>>>>>
>>>>>>I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their test tool.
>>>>>>My computer is more powerful than most but it still doesn't pass
>>>>>>the tests. The adoption rate for either if these new formats is
>>>>>>going to be real low for a long time when people can't even use
>>>>>>them in a relatively high-end PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years because it
>>>>>>is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and 320 GB HD.
>>>>>>These specs are still not enough to get the job done. The entry
>>>>>>level for these new disks is simply too high for me to be
>>>>>>interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough to handle
>>>>> dvd
>>>>> video;
>>>>> a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a 2.5-3.0
>>>>> ghz
>>>>> p4
>>>>> would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be such a
>>>>> steaming
>>>>> pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to handle the
>>>>> file
>>>>> and
>>>>> video requirements.
>>>
>>>>Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame is HUGE with
>>>>HD.
>>>
>>> That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
>>>
>>> NOT.
>
>>NOT
>
> Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution are as
> common as dirt.

What I meant was you analogy was wrong. Games have no relationship here,
fool.

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 05:12:26 GMT, AZ Nomad <>
Gave us:

>On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:08:42 -0700, JoeBloe <> wrote:
>> It is not about the processing power required. It IS about the data
>>stream requisites.
>
>Then I suggest you dump your ISA based computer and get something
>with a PCI bus or newer. Then you'll have plenty of bandwidth.

You're an idiot. ISA went out years ago. So your petty little
remark has zero meaning.

>> Oh and with software (CPU) decoding, it can easily be argued that
>>the new formats do indeed require more CPU power to render each frame
>>than a simple hi res game per frame rate.
>
>Sure, but any current $300 PC can do the job and is probably overkill. Time to
>trade in your P2.

No, the "current $300 PC" cannot "do the job", and is NOT "overkill.
It is more like"insufficient".

Not running a P2 and haven't been for years, idiot.
I have a dual core SLI machine. Try again, smartass. Strike that.
Make it LARDASS.

"Alpha" <> wrote in message
news:
> "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
> > > > > news:...
> > > > > > On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones
> > > > > > <> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily,
> > > > > > > > it covers the high system spec demands of HD-DVD and
> > > > > > > > Blueray playback. It also links
> > > > > > > > out to a cool program that will analyze your system and
> > > > > > > > tell you if your system is ready for the new technology
> > > > > > > > or if you better start shopping for a new PC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that
> > > > > > > > provides some details
> > > > > > > > on system details and if they are powerful enough to
> > > > > > > > run HD-DVD or Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be
> > > > > > > > surprised, if watching a video
> > > > > > > > will exceed your current system specs."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their
> > > > > > > test tool. My computer is more powerful than most but it
> > > > > > > still doesn't pass the tests. The adoption rate for
> > > > > > > either if these new formats is going to be real low for a
> > > > > > > long time when people can't even use them in a relatively
> > > > > > > high-end PC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years
> > > > > > > because it is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and
> > > > > > > 320 GB HD. These specs are still not enough to get the job
> > > > > > > done. The
> > > > > > > entry level for these new disks is simply too high for me
> > > > > > > to be interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough
> > > > > > to handle dvd
> > > > > > video;
> > > > > > a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a
> > > > > > 2.5-3.0 ghz
> > > > > > p4
> > > > > > would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be
> > > > > > such a steaming
> > > > > > pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to
> > > > > > handle the file
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > video requirements.
> > > >
> > > > > Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame
> > > > > is HUGE with HD.
> > > >
> > > > That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
> > > >
> > > > NOT.
> >
> > > NOT
> >
> > Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution
> > are as common as dirt.
>
> What I meant was you analogy was wrong. Games have no relationship
> here, fool.

Well you're correct there, it takes more processing power to run cames at HD
resolutions than it does to watch HD video.

--
ThePunisher

On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:42:57 GMT, Alotta Fagina <>
Gave us:

>You wrote:
>
>> This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily, it covers the
>> high system spec demands of HD-DVD and Blueray playback. It also links
>> out to a cool program that will analyze your system and tell you if
>> your system is ready for the new technology or if you better start
>> shopping for a new PC.
>>
>> Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>>
>> "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that provides some details
>> on system details and if they are powerful enough to run HD-DVD or
>> Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be surprised, if watching a video
>> will exceed your current system specs."
>
>The primary problem will be that almost NO current video cards are HDCP-
>compliant, and Vista will not play back HDCP content on them.

Mine got a green light just fine. You might want to change that
remark to "drivers".

On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:11:53 -0700, "Alpha" <> Gave us:

>
>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>news:...
>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>news:...
>>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones <>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily, it covers the
>>>>>>>> high system spec demands of HD-DVD and Blueray playback. It also
>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>> out to a cool program that will analyze your system and tell you if
>>>>>>>> your system is ready for the new technology or if you better start
>>>>>>>> shopping for a new PC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that provides some
>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>> on system details and if they are powerful enough to run HD-DVD or
>>>>>>>> Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be surprised, if watching a
>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>> will exceed your current system specs."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their test tool.
>>>>>>>My computer is more powerful than most but it still doesn't pass
>>>>>>>the tests. The adoption rate for either if these new formats is
>>>>>>>going to be real low for a long time when people can't even use
>>>>>>>them in a relatively high-end PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years because it
>>>>>>>is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and 320 GB HD.
>>>>>>>These specs are still not enough to get the job done. The entry
>>>>>>>level for these new disks is simply too high for me to be
>>>>>>>interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough to handle
>>>>>> dvd
>>>>>> video;
>>>>>> a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a 2.5-3.0
>>>>>> ghz
>>>>>> p4
>>>>>> would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be such a
>>>>>> steaming
>>>>>> pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to handle the
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> video requirements.
>>>>
>>>>>Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame is HUGE with
>>>>>HD.
>>>>
>>>> That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
>>>>
>>>> NOT.
>>
>>>NOT
>>
>> Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution are as
>> common as dirt.
>
>What I meant was you analogy was wrong. Games have no relationship here,
>fool.
>

Yes. He does not seem to understand the concept of a "datagram".
The stream size on this level of video is far greater than some lame
game's frame for frame rate could ever be.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:42:23 GMT, "ThePunisher"
<> Gave us:

>"Alpha" <> wrote in message
>news:
>> "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>> > > news:...
>> > > > On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > "AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>> > > > > news:...
>> > > > > > On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones
>> > > > > > <> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily,
>> > > > > > > > it covers the high system spec demands of HD-DVD and
>> > > > > > > > Blueray playback. It also links
>> > > > > > > > out to a cool program that will analyze your system and
>> > > > > > > > tell you if your system is ready for the new technology
>> > > > > > > > or if you better start shopping for a new PC.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that
>> > > > > > > > provides some details
>> > > > > > > > on system details and if they are powerful enough to
>> > > > > > > > run HD-DVD or Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be
>> > > > > > > > surprised, if watching a video
>> > > > > > > > will exceed your current system specs."
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their
>> > > > > > > test tool. My computer is more powerful than most but it
>> > > > > > > still doesn't pass the tests. The adoption rate for
>> > > > > > > either if these new formats is going to be real low for a
>> > > > > > > long time when people can't even use them in a relatively
>> > > > > > > high-end PC.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years
>> > > > > > > because it is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and
>> > > > > > > 320 GB HD. These specs are still not enough to get the job
>> > > > > > > done. The
>> > > > > > > entry level for these new disks is simply too high for me
>> > > > > > > to be interested.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough
>> > > > > > to handle dvd
>> > > > > > video;
>> > > > > > a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a
>> > > > > > 2.5-3.0 ghz
>> > > > > > p4
>> > > > > > would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be
>> > > > > > such a steaming
>> > > > > > pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to
>> > > > > > handle the file
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > video requirements.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame
>> > > > > is HUGE with HD.
>> > > >
>> > > > That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
>> > > >
>> > > > NOT.
>> >
>> > > NOT
>> >
>> > Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution
>> > are as common as dirt.
>>
>> What I meant was you analogy was wrong. Games have no relationship
>> here, fool.
>
>Well you're correct there, it takes more processing power to run cames at HD
>resolutions than it does to watch HD video.

It is not about the processing power required. It IS about the data
stream requisites.

Oh and with software (CPU) decoding, it can easily be argued that
the new formats do indeed require more CPU power to render each frame
than a simple hi res game per frame rate.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:08:42 -0700, JoeBloe <> wrote:
> It is not about the processing power required. It IS about the data
>stream requisites.

Then I suggest you dump your ISA based computer and get something
with a PCI bus or newer. Then you'll have plenty of bandwidth.



> Oh and with software (CPU) decoding, it can easily be argued that
>the new formats do indeed require more CPU power to render each frame
>than a simple hi res game per frame rate.

Sure, but any current $300 PC can do the job and is probably overkill. Time to
trade in your P2.

"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:08:42 -0700, JoeBloe
> <> wrote:
>> It is not about the processing power required. It IS about the data
>>stream requisites.
>
> Then I suggest you dump your ISA based computer and get something
> with a PCI bus or newer. Then you'll have plenty of bandwidth.
>
>
>
>> Oh and with software (CPU) decoding, it can easily be argued that
>>the new formats do indeed require more CPU power to render each frame
>>than a simple hi res game per frame rate.
>
> Sure, but any current $300 PC can do the job and is probably overkill.
> Time to
> trade in your P2.

You are an idiot. The previous poster is absolutely right.

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:56:12 -0700, JoeBloe <> wrote:


>On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 21:11:53 -0700, "Alpha" <> Gave us:

>>
>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:37:41 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>>news:...
>>>>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:07:16 -0700, Alpha <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"AZ Nomad" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:27:49 GMT, Mark Jones <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> This is a very interesting article put up on TGdaily, it covers the
>>>>>>>>> high system spec demands of HD-DVD and Blueray playback. It also
>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>> out to a cool program that will analyze your system and tell you if
>>>>>>>>> your system is ready for the new technology or if you better start
>>>>>>>>> shopping for a new PC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/08/hd_ready_pc/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Cyberlink published a free "advisor" tool that provides some
>>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>>> on system details and if they are powerful enough to run HD-DVD or
>>>>>>>>> Blu-ray movies on a computer. Don't be surprised, if watching a
>>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>>> will exceed your current system specs."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I went to http://www.cyberlink.com/ and downloaded their test tool.
>>>>>>>>My computer is more powerful than most but it still doesn't pass
>>>>>>>>the tests. The adoption rate for either if these new formats is
>>>>>>>>going to be real low for a long time when people can't even use
>>>>>>>>them in a relatively high-end PC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I do not intend to replace my PC for at least 2 years because it
>>>>>>>>is an AMD Athlon 64 3700+ with 1GB of RAM and 320 GB HD.
>>>>>>>>These specs are still not enough to get the job done. The entry
>>>>>>>>level for these new disks is simply too high for me to be
>>>>>>>>interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I find that really hard to believe. A 350mhz P2 is enough to handle
>>>>>>> dvd
>>>>>>> video;
>>>>>>> a 1.5ghz p4 is four times the processor. I can't believe a 2.5-3.0
>>>>>>> ghz
>>>>>>> p4
>>>>>>> would have any problem at all on hddvd or BR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps cyberlink is assuming that microsoft vista will be such a
>>>>>>> steaming
>>>>>>> pile of **** that it'll need 6 ghz of processor(s) just to handle the
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> video requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Not at all. The number of pixels to be displayed per frame is HUGE with
>>>>>>HD.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would explain why HDTV games are impossible.
>>>>>
>>>>> NOT.
>>>
>>>>NOT
>>>
>>> Pull your head out of your ass. Games running at HDTV resolution are as
>>> common as dirt.
>>
>>What I meant was you analogy was wrong. Games have no relationship here,
>>fool.
>>

> Yes. He does not seem to understand the concept of a "datagram".
>The stream size on this level of video is far greater than some lame
>game's frame for frame rate could ever be.