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Old 09-07-2006, 02:02 AM   #1
Default MITM on 3TDES and why is the effective key lenght 112 bits


Can anyone explain how the MITM works on 3TDES (three distinct keys)?

I am typically interested in finding out why 3TDES has effective
key-length of 112-bit

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Old 09-07-2006, 03:15 AM   #2
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"Saqib Ali" <> wrote in news:1157590926.262613.165900
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> Can anyone explain how the MITM works on 3TDES (three distinct keys)?
>
> I am typically interested in finding out why 3TDES has effective
> key-length of 112-bit
>
> In Peace,
> Saqib Ali
> http://www.full-disc-encryption.com
>
>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_DES

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Old 09-07-2006, 05:49 AM   #3
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_DES

This has NO explanation of how the MITM works or why the effective key
lenght is reduced to 112 bits.

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Old 09-07-2006, 10:36 AM   #4
Ludovic Joly
 
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I think you should post your question to sci.crypt...

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Old 09-07-2006, 07:42 PM   #5
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Saqib Ali wrote:
> Can anyone explain how the MITM works on 3TDES (three distinct keys)?
>
> I am typically interested in finding out why 3TDES has effective
> key-length of 112-bit
>


I wrote this ages ago for TechTarget, but it answers your question.

<http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/ateQuestionNResponse/0,289625,sid14_cid591441_tax292741,00.html>

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Old 09-07-2006, 09:16 PM   #6
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Jon wrote:
<http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/ateQuestionNResponse/0,289625,sid14_cid591441_tax292741,00.html>

Thank you Sir. This is what I was looking for.

Another good explanation was given by Mark Wooding on sci.crypt:

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So, triple DES involves three keys, K1, K2, K3. Write
single-DESencryption with a key K and plaintext block x as E(K, x), and
decryption as D(K, x). Triple DES encryption is E(K3, D(K2, E(K1,
x))).

Suppose you're given a plaintext block x and corresponding ciphertext
y. For each possible K3, compute D(K3, y), and store the result in a
table. This takes about 2^56 work, and uses 2^56 blocks of memory.

Now, for each pair K1, K2, compute D(K2, E(K1, x)). If this matches
one of the values in the table, find the corresponding K3, and test the
whole key against some other plaintext/ciphertext pairs. Continue
until you're done. This step takes no extra memory and requires 2^112
time.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:12 AM   #7
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Saqib Ali wrote:

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_DES

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> This has NO explanation of how the MITM works or why the effective key
> lenght is reduced to 112 bits.


It contains a link to the article about MITM.


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