no signal

I have a belkin wirless g router connected to my windows xp system and
belkin wireless g desktop card installed in my windows98 se pc. The card is
not picking up any signal from the router. I am wondering if the windows xp
system needs to have a wireless card installed too? The only thing located
in my device manager/network adapters is the ethernet card. I am using
symatico dsl. Thank you for any help

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julie wrote:
> I have a belkin wirless g router connected to my windows xp system and
> belkin wireless g desktop card installed in my windows98 se pc. The card is
> not picking up any signal from the router. I am wondering if the windows xp
> system needs to have a wireless card installed too? The only thing located
> in my device manager/network adapters is the ethernet card. I am using
> symatico dsl. Thank you for any help

If I understand you correctly, your XP system is connected to the router
by ethernet cable. If that's so, then you do not need a wireless card
in that system (unless, of course, you want to move it farther away from
the router than the cable will go).

Your connections should be:

DSL line --> DSL Modem --> "Internet" port on Belkin router

(some routers have built-in DSL modems; in that case the DSL line
connects directly to the router)

XP System (ethernet card) --> "Lan" port on Belkin router.

There can be any number of reasons why the Belkin wireless card
installed in your 98se system isn't picking up a signal:

Card defective or not installed properly (includes both hardware and
software installation).
Card turned off in power-saving options
Router wireless system turned off
System too far from router or signal being blocked.

Lem

Thank you Lem for replying. Yes it is connected to the router by ethernet
cable(blue) and it is hooked up properly, line..modem...router..In network
adapter properties it says that the belkin is working properly, the card is
not turned off, I don't believe the router is turned off (all lights are on
and green) and I have moved the 98se system into the same small room as the
xp computer(distance can not be a problem) Any other suggestions?
Thank you
>
> Card defective or not installed properly (includes both hardware and
> software installation).
> Card turned off in power-saving options
> Router wireless system turned off
> System too far from router or signal being blocked.
>
>

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julie wrote:

> Thank you Lem for replying. Yes it is connected to the router by
> ethernet
> cable(blue) and it is hooked up properly, line..modem...router..In
> network adapter properties it says that the belkin is working
> properly, the card is not turned off, I don't believe the router is
> turned off (all lights are on and green) and I have moved the 98se
> system into the same small room as the
> xp computer(distance can not be a problem) Any other suggestions?
> Thank you
>>
>> Card defective or not installed properly (includes both hardware and
>> software installation).
>> Card turned off in power-saving options
>> Router wireless system turned off
>> System too far from router or signal being blocked.
>>
>>
Did you configure the wireless aspect of the router? You can test if the
wireless part of the router is working by having a friend with a
wireless-enabled laptop come over (or use your own laptop if you have
one). The laptop's wireless should see your wireless network.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Malke

julie wrote:
> Thank you Lem for replying. Yes it is connected to the router by ethernet
> cable(blue) and it is hooked up properly, line..modem...router..In network
> adapter properties it says that the belkin is working properly, the card is
> not turned off, I don't believe the router is turned off (all lights are on
> and green) and I have moved the 98se system into the same small room as the
> xp computer(distance can not be a problem) Any other suggestions?
> Thank you
>> Card defective or not installed properly (includes both hardware and
>> software installation).
>> Card turned off in power-saving options
>> Router wireless system turned off
>> System too far from router or signal being blocked.
>>
>>
I suppose the first question I should have asked is, has your wireless
network ever worked correctly? If it did once work, what happened just
before it stopped working? I'm going to assume that you have never had
a successful wifi connection, but that you can successfully get to the
Internet from the XP computer.

Odds are that the wireless section of the router is turned on, because
that's the usual factory default. Although you're probably exaggerating
a bit in saying _all_ of the lights are on and green(probably only one
of the LAN lights is on), the critical one is the one labeled WLAN. If
that light is on, the router's wifi radio is running. While you're
think of lights, you might also look at the back of your 98se box check
the lights on your wifi adapter. As I understand it, Belkin adapaters
have 2 lights: a power light, which should be solidly on, and a Link
light, which is either solidly on (connected) or slowly flashing (radio
active, but not linked to a network). What do you see?

Malke's suggestion to have a friend bring over a wifi-enabled laptop
will help determine if your router is working properly. If you can't do
this, or if the laptop also can't see your network,one possibility is
that the person who initially setup your router may have disabled SSID
broadcast. Many wifi router manufacturers suggest doing this as a
security measure, although in fact it provides virtually no added
security, and can lead to various problems -- mainly that without the
SSID broadcast, the router is invisible to your wifi adapter.

From your XP box, open a browser window and enter the address of your
router. You will have to check in your router's User Guide, but the
address probably is 192.168.2.1. If this doesn't work and you don't
have your manual, you can download the correct manual from
www.belkin.com. You should see a "Status" page. One of the things
shown is the SSID. This should be a name that is unique to your network.

Click the "Login" button and enter the router's password (the default is
to leave the password window blank). Click on the "Wireless" button and
then on the "Channel and SSID" link. Make sure there is something
entered in the box for SSID. If what is there is the default (belkin54
g or similar), change it to something unique to you. Make certain that
there is a check mark next to "Broadcast SSID." If you have a
"Protected mode" option, set it to "off". "Wireless mode" can either be
"54G-auto" or "G-only". Be sure to click "Apply changes" when you are
done. Logout of the router's configuration utility.

Now try your 98se box. Do you see the network name you assigned? If
so, good. Now you'll have to go back into the router's utility and set
the proper encryption, but that's the next installment.

..

Lem

I don't know if I configured the wireless. I followed the directions to
install it. I even did it over a couple of times with the support line of
Belkin. I have spent many hours talking to them (phone) and their final
answer was to upgrade to newer windows. That is not possible for me to do.
I do have a gf who has a wireless laptop but I won't be able to see her till
the weekend. Any other way of checking? Thank you


> Did you configure the wireless aspect of the router? You can test if the
> wireless part of the router is working by having a friend with a
> wireless-enabled laptop come over (or use your own laptop if you have
> one). The laptop's wireless should see your wireless network.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

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It has never worked at all, and yes I can get online from the xp computer.
One out of the 4 lan lights is on and the others (power,wirless, internet,
modem) are all on too. I don't see anything labeled WLAN. I have never seen
either of the lights on the adapter light up. I am the installer of the
router (again with Belkins help) I went to the status page the only thing I
had to change was the wireless mode. I changed it to G-only. Everything else
was as u said. I am in the 98se box and I don't see the network name I
assigned. Perhaps Im not looking in the right place? Thanks
> ..
>

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julie wrote:

>
> I don't know if I configured the wireless. I followed the directions
> to
> install it. I even did it over a couple of times with the support
> line of
> Belkin. I have spent many hours talking to them (phone) and their
> final
> answer was to upgrade to newer windows. That is not possible for me
> to do. I do have a gf who has a wireless laptop but I won't be able to
> see her till
> the weekend. Any other way of checking? Thank you

Briefly, the way you configure the wireless part of a router is to first
be connected to the router via an ethernet cable. Then open a browser
and type the router's IP address in the addressbar like:

http://192.168.2.1 [enter] (I think this is the right address for
Belkins, but you can check in your manual or on their website).

This should take you to the router's login screen. Put in the username
and password you used when setting it up, or if you didn't change this
from the default put in the default (check manual).

Now you should see a link or tab to Wireless. Make sure it is enabled,
that you changed the SSID to something other than the default and
something memorable (I don't like people to use their names; choose
something else). Enable the security - you need to choose a security
method that is supported by your hardware. IOW, if you have a newer
wireless adapter it will support WPA2-PSK. Older adapters will need to
use WEP. Naturally, you will have checked to make sure whatever
wireless hardware you put on your Win98 box supports Win98. All the
wireless adapters I've seen do support Win98SE but not the original
Win98, so that's another thing for you to check. To see what version of
Win98 you have, right-click on My Computer and choose Properties. This
will bring up the System applet and on the General tab you'll see
"Windows 98 Second Edition" if that's what you have.

Save your settings and now any wireless-enabled machine in your near
vicinity will see your wireless network. When they try to connect, they
will need to enter the encryption key you set. Because Win98 doesn't
have a built-in wireless network function like XP does, you'll need to
use whatever software came with the wireless adapter.

Other than that, AFAIK the only way to check if the wireless is
transmitting is to have another computer (like your friend's laptop) on
so you can see if your network shows up.

HTH,

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Malke

julie wrote:
>
> It has never worked at all, and yes I can get online from the xp computer.
> One out of the 4 lan lights is on and the others (power,wirless, internet,
> modem) are all on too. I don't see anything labeled WLAN. I have never seen
> either of the lights on the adapter light up. I am the installer of the
> router (again with Belkins help) I went to the status page the only thing I
> had to change was the wireless mode. I changed it to G-only. Everything else
> was as u said. I am in the 98se box and I don't see the network name I
> assigned. Perhaps Im not looking in the right place? Thanks
>> ..
>>
What model router and wifi adapter do you have?

I'm looking at the manual for Belkin's "High Speed Mode Wireless G
Router" model F5D7231-4. It's probably similar, but not identical to,
the model you have. The "wireless" light is probably the same as the
"WLAN" light I referred to, and the fact that it's on confirms my guess
that the router's radio is on.

The fact that the lights on the adapter are off indicates that's where
the problem is. Looking at Belkin's site, I'm guessing that you have
some version of the F5D7000 "54G Wireless Desktop Network Card."

Did you install this card? Did you install the software BEFORE you
installed the card? Does the icon for the Belkin configuration utility
show in your system tray (next to the clock)? Is there a red X over it?

Where are you looking to see if your network is there?

Don't give up. We're pretty close to resolving this.

Lem

Wireless G router model F5D7230-4 Wireless G Desktop Card version 3000tt .
After reading your last reply I checked the wireless light on the router and
it is now off. (before it was lit) That must have happened after I changed
to the (G-only) I did install the software before the card. The icon does
show in the system tray. It is red but there is no X over it. I am looking
in the belkin wireless configuration utility, under the wireless network tab.
(on the 98 se) The avaliable network box is empty,i refreshed it many times
and still empty.
Thank you
>
>

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