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Jim Watt wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:04:20 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
> >From: <>
> >
> >| try PC Activity Monitor:
> >| http://download.softsecurity.com
> >|
> >
> >
> >BitDefender 7.2 08.26.2006 Spyware.Pcacme.A
> >Fortinet 2.77.0.0 08.25.2006 Spy/PCAcme
> >Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 08.26.2006 not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.PCAcme.64
> >McAfee 4838 08.25.2006 potentially unwanted program Spyware-PCAcme
> >NOD32v2 1.1724 08.24.2006 Win32/Spy.PCAcme
>
> But as any of those should regard a keylogger as unwanted
> software, the question is does it actually contain additional
> functionality as spyware, or is it just a keylogger.

What's your definition of spyware?

Notan

wrote:

>>> as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>> for their hotmail account.
>>
>> Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>
> Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?

By using a webbrowser that allows to store entered data? By intercepting
the login communication while accepting the changed certificate?

David H. Lipman wrote:

> From: <>
>
>| try PC Activity Monitor:
>| http://download.softsecurity.com
>|
>
> BitDefender 7.2 08.26.2006 Spyware.Pcacme.A
> Fortinet 2.77.0.0 08.25.2006 Spy/PCAcme
> Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 08.26.2006 not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.PCAcme.64
> McAfee 4838 08.25.2006 potentially unwanted program Spyware-PCAcme
> NOD32v2 1.1724 08.24.2006 Win32/Spy.PCAcme

Seems like Kaspersky and McAfee are the only ones with competent naming
conventions.

wrote:
> Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>are made on it
>>
>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>
>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>for their hotmail account.
>>
>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>
>
> Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>
> A
>

You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?

Rick Merrill wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi
> >>>
> >>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> >>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
> >>>are made on it
> >>
> >><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
> >>
> >>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
> >>>for their hotmail account.
> >>
> >>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
> >
> >
> > Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
> >
> > A
> >
>
> You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?

The only people more pathetic than the OP are those that try to help him/her.

Notan

Rick Merrill wrote:

> You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?

He has full authority on his computer. If someone trusts him to not log
every input, it might just be unjustified.

For the very same reason, I'd never enter any credentials in a cyber café.

Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
> > You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
> He has full authority on his computer. If someone trusts him to not log
> every input, it might just be unjustified.
>
> For the very same reason, I'd never enter any credentials in a cyber café.

It's an invasion of privacy.

It's no different than renting a room to someone, then spying on them.

Notan

Notan wrote:

> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>>>are made on it
>>>>
>>>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>>>
>>>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>>>for their hotmail account.
>>>>
>>>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>>>
>>>A
>>>
>>
>>You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
>
> The only people more pathetic than the OP are those that try to help him/her.
>
> Notan

More like trying to dope slap 'im! He's a self described thief!

From: "Jim Watt" <_way>


|
| But as any of those should regard a keylogger as unwanted
| software, the question is does it actually contain additional
| functionality as spyware, or is it just a keylogger.

This is considered "Spyware" that contains a Keylogging component.

BTW:
From Symantec:

filename: pcacme.exe
machine: AVCAutomation:
result: This file is detected as Spyware.PCAcme.
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ven...re.pcacme.html

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:26:51 -0600, Notan
<> wrote:

>What's your definition of spyware?

Software which discloses information to someone
other than the party who installed it.

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com