Stuart Millington wrote:
> [Without repeating what Jono has already replied to]
> On 25 Aug 2006 10:56:18 -0700, http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >All of the Fritz!box models come with a built in DSL interface. I do
> >not utilize DSL I am on a cable connection. Does this matter? Can I
> >ignore the DSL function?
> Probably not with a UK cable connection. Don't know what US ISP's
> Firstly, TW/NTL cable modems do not function as routers, so adding two
> ethernet devices via a switch/hub doesn't normally work. You would
> need an auxiliary router between the modem and other devices.
Charter Cable just provide an interface box. They call it a Modem, but
since it is a digital to digital device that is a misnomer.
> Secondly, I would not expect the gateway for WAN routing (on the
> Fritz! boxes) to be switchable to a LAN port. Higher-end kit can do
> this, but it is very rare on SOHO kit. Even if you could do it, you
> would still need the auxiliary router.
Which I have. I use a DLINK firewall/router immediately after the
Cable interface. Unfortunately I am running out of ports.
> You'd be better off with an ATA - AVM Fritz! or otherwise - along with
> the router.
OK. I'll look into that approach. Currently I use a Linksys
router/ATA and three standalone Motorola ATAs. They are all locked. I
am looking to replace the Linksys with an unlocked device. Currently
the three ports on the Linksys are used by the ATAs. I don't have many
free LAN ports on the DLink.
> IMO, you may want to look at something like a Draytek Vigor 2100V /
> 2100VG at £79/89+vat which includes the requisite router and VoIP
> UK: http://www.seg.co.uk/
Thank you I will take a close look. This may be a good alternative.
However, I like the programmability of the Fritz!box.
> >Is the wireless function on the two upper range models compatible with
> >a Notebook purchased in the US? I.e. is the wireless computing
> >standard universal?
> 802.11a/b/g are. 802.11n is not yet, IIRC, standardised and neither
> are any of the "super duper speed boost 108Mbps" fake^Wvariants.
I am not sure what my Notebook uses. Currently I am happy with the
RJ45 connection to a LAN port on my DLink. I just figured if the
router/ATA comes with wireless it ought to be compatible.
> >Can I ignore the PSTN input? I do not have access to a UK Standard
> >PSTN line.
> TW/NTL provide a standard PSTN line (aside from Bellcore CLIP) -
> unless the NV, US IP address that Google says is your posting IP is
> accurate, in which case your cable modem may be completely different
> than the TW/NTL one(s) mentioned above.
Well spotted . Charter Cable do provide telephone service. Just
now I am not sure that I need, or that I want to pay for it. I have
been VoIP only for several years.
> >This unit, I assume, comes from Germany. Are the voltages (Ringing,
> >speech, on-hook, etc) normal UK standard voltages? Are they
> >configurable should I want to utilize US kit?
> Most telecoms kit is "internationalised" these days, usually by
> software/firmware with the same hardware for most markets. If you can
> find what you want from a non-gray, sorry grey , US supplier it
> should be fine for both US lines and power.
The Linksys box I use at the moment is set up to UK standards (I
think). Next month I will be home in the UK. I plan to pick up some
UK telephones. But, it is worth thinking about other options.
Thank you for your input
> Jono explained on 25/08/2006 :
> > You would be far better off trying to get hold of
> > <http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZBox/FRITZ_Box_Fon_ata/index.html> as they
> > have both a WAN & a LAN port and add a wireless access point. I'm beggered if
> > I can find a UK supplier, though.
> Well, surprise, surprise
The "Fritz Box Fon ata" looks like a possible. Some more LAN ports
would have been nice.
Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > Can someone help with some advice and information with
> > the FRITZ!Box range of products.
> As a long term user and having written reviews on one or two of them, I'll
Thank you. It was your recommendation that first started me thinking
about Fritz!boxes (Or, is it Fritz!boxen).
> > All of the Fritz!box models come with a built in DSL
> > interface. I do not utilize DSL I am on a cable
> > connection. Does this matter? Can I ignore the DSL
> > function?
> Actually there is a device without the ADSL modem, but it isn't widely
> available in the UK. With the latest firmware though the internal modem
> can be disabled.
The "fon ata" looks like a real possibility. I just wish it had more
> > Is the wireless function on the two upper range models
> > compatible with a Notebook purchased in the US? I.e. is
> > the wireless computing standard universal?
> Pretty much, although some countries restrict the RF channels that can be
This feature is not a "must".
> > Can I ignore the PSTN input? I do not have access to a
> > UK Standard PSTN line.
> There is an option to set your region, this sets all parameters to the
> correct ones for your region. It isn't a comprehensive list of parameters
> as for devices such as the Sipura range, but a simple list of countries.
> The US isn't currently listed, but there is an option "other country"
> which might work, but I would advise you contact AVM tech support direct
> to ask, they are very quick to respond as a rule, I've found.
Again, this is not a "must have". I have been "VoIP only" for several
> > This unit, I assume, comes from Germany. Are the
> > voltages (Ringing, speech, on-hook, etc) normal UK
> > standard voltages? Are they configurable should I want
> > to utilize US kit?
> See above re. regional settings.
> > The specs describe the VoIP ports as fax compatible.
> > What does this mean? Would I have to use a service that
> > conforms to the correct Fax standards?
> Most VoIP providers in the UK don't support the T.38 fax protocol over a
> VoIP connection (I suppose it should be called FoIP), if you need fax you
> should check your provider supports T.38. I have successfully sent and
> received faxes using the G711a protocol but it isn't guaranteeed.
Unfortunately I do need fax capability. I do not like the technology,
but I have contacts that sometime must have a fax.
> > What are the units' power supply voltages? Are the power
> > supply connections the normal 'tip and ring'
> > arrangements? I will have to purchase a 120v converter.
> The units come with a PSU rated to suit the country in which they are
> sold. If there is an official US distributor then you will get a suitable
> unit, otherwise you may have to get a converter, although many PSU's these
> days will run on anything from 100 to 240V.
Fritz!box have NO US presence that I am aware of. I would deal with
them by way of the UK. I can always have a family member forward an
> AVM's website is at www.avm.de/en - click on the relevant link for
> Hope this helps,
Yes it does. All info. helps the decision making process.
>Which I have. I use a DLINK firewall/router immediately after the
>Cable interface. Unfortunately I am running out of ports.
In which case, the cheapest/easiest option would be to plug a switch
into the router and plug the ATA's into that? I picked up an 8 port
GigE switch for about £40. For the same, or less, money you should get
a larger 10/100 switch.
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