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adrian_h_hudson@yahoo.com
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      08-28-2006

Stuart Millington wrote:
> [Without repeating what Jono has already replied to]
>
> On 25 Aug 2006 10:56:18 -0700, wrote:
>
> >All of the Fritz!box models come with a built in DSL interface. I do
> >not utilize DSL I am on a cable connection. Does this matter? Can I
> >ignore the DSL function?

>
> Probably not with a UK cable connection. Don't know what US ISP's
> provide.
>
> Firstly, TW/NTL cable modems do not function as routers, so adding two
> ethernet devices via a switch/hub doesn't normally work. You would
> need an auxiliary router between the modem and other devices.
>

Charter Cable just provide an interface box. They call it a Modem, but
since it is a digital to digital device that is a misnomer.

> Secondly, I would not expect the gateway for WAN routing (on the
> Fritz! boxes) to be switchable to a LAN port. Higher-end kit can do
> this, but it is very rare on SOHO kit. Even if you could do it, you
> would still need the auxiliary router.
>

Which I have. I use a DLINK firewall/router immediately after the
Cable interface. Unfortunately I am running out of ports.

> You'd be better off with an ATA - AVM Fritz! or otherwise - along with
> the router.


OK. I'll look into that approach. Currently I use a Linksys
router/ATA and three standalone Motorola ATAs. They are all locked. I
am looking to replace the Linksys with an unlocked device. Currently
the three ports on the Linksys are used by the ATAs. I don't have many
free LAN ports on the DLink.
>
> IMO, you may want to look at something like a Draytek Vigor 2100V /
> 2100VG at £79/89+vat which includes the requisite router and VoIP
> facilities.
> UK: http://www.seg.co.uk/


Thank you I will take a close look. This may be a good alternative.
However, I like the programmability of the Fritz!box.
>
> >Is the wireless function on the two upper range models compatible with
> >a Notebook purchased in the US? I.e. is the wireless computing
> >standard universal?

>
> 802.11a/b/g are. 802.11n is not yet, IIRC, standardised and neither
> are any of the "super duper speed boost 108Mbps" fake^Wvariants.
>

I am not sure what my Notebook uses. Currently I am happy with the
RJ45 connection to a LAN port on my DLink. I just figured if the
router/ATA comes with wireless it ought to be compatible.

> >Can I ignore the PSTN input? I do not have access to a UK Standard
> >PSTN line.

>
> TW/NTL provide a standard PSTN line (aside from Bellcore CLIP) -
> unless the NV, US IP address that Google says is your posting IP is
> accurate, in which case your cable modem may be completely different
> than the TW/NTL one(s) mentioned above.
>

Well spotted . Charter Cable do provide telephone service. Just
now I am not sure that I need, or that I want to pay for it. I have
been VoIP only for several years.

> >This unit, I assume, comes from Germany. Are the voltages (Ringing,
> >speech, on-hook, etc) normal UK standard voltages? Are they
> >configurable should I want to utilize US kit?

>
> Most telecoms kit is "internationalised" these days, usually by
> software/firmware with the same hardware for most markets. If you can
> find what you want from a non-gray, sorry grey , US supplier it
> should be fine for both US lines and power.
>

The Linksys box I use at the moment is set up to UK standards (I
think). Next month I will be home in the UK. I plan to pick up some
UK telephones. But, it is worth thinking about other options.
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Thank you for your input
Adrian

 
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      08-28-2006

Jono wrote:
> Jono explained on 25/08/2006 :
> > You would be far better off trying to get hold of
> > <http://www.avm.de/en/Produkte/FRITZBox/FRITZ_Box_Fon_ata/index.html> as they
> > have both a WAN & a LAN port and add a wireless access point. I'm beggered if
> > I can find a UK supplier, though.

>
> Well, surprise, surprise
> <http://www.advancedts.com/index.html?lmd=38925.697801>


The "Fritz Box Fon ata" looks like a possible. Some more LAN ports
would have been nice.

 
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      08-28-2006

Ivor Jones wrote:
> <> wrote in message
> news: oups.com
> > Can someone help with some advice and information with
> > the FRITZ!Box range of products.

>
> As a long term user and having written reviews on one or two of them, I'll
> try
>

Thank you. It was your recommendation that first started me thinking
about Fritz!boxes (Or, is it Fritz!boxen).

> > All of the Fritz!box models come with a built in DSL
> > interface. I do not utilize DSL I am on a cable
> > connection. Does this matter? Can I ignore the DSL
> > function?

>
> Actually there is a device without the ADSL modem, but it isn't widely
> available in the UK. With the latest firmware though the internal modem
> can be disabled.
>

The "fon ata" looks like a real possibility. I just wish it had more
LAN ports.

> > Is the wireless function on the two upper range models
> > compatible with a Notebook purchased in the US? I.e. is
> > the wireless computing standard universal?

>
> Pretty much, although some countries restrict the RF channels that can be
> used.
>

This feature is not a "must".

> > Can I ignore the PSTN input? I do not have access to a
> > UK Standard PSTN line.

>
> There is an option to set your region, this sets all parameters to the
> correct ones for your region. It isn't a comprehensive list of parameters
> as for devices such as the Sipura range, but a simple list of countries.
> The US isn't currently listed, but there is an option "other country"
> which might work, but I would advise you contact AVM tech support direct
> to ask, they are very quick to respond as a rule, I've found.
>

Again, this is not a "must have". I have been "VoIP only" for several
years.

> > This unit, I assume, comes from Germany. Are the
> > voltages (Ringing, speech, on-hook, etc) normal UK
> > standard voltages? Are they configurable should I want
> > to utilize US kit?

>
> See above re. regional settings.
>
> > The specs describe the VoIP ports as fax compatible.
> > What does this mean? Would I have to use a service that
> > conforms to the correct Fax standards?

>
> Most VoIP providers in the UK don't support the T.38 fax protocol over a
> VoIP connection (I suppose it should be called FoIP), if you need fax you
> should check your provider supports T.38. I have successfully sent and
> received faxes using the G711a protocol but it isn't guaranteeed.
>

Unfortunately I do need fax capability. I do not like the technology,
but I have contacts that sometime must have a fax.

> > What are the units' power supply voltages? Are the power
> > supply connections the normal 'tip and ring'
> > arrangements? I will have to purchase a 120v converter.

>
> The units come with a PSU rated to suit the country in which they are
> sold. If there is an official US distributor then you will get a suitable
> unit, otherwise you may have to get a converter, although many PSU's these
> days will run on anything from 100 to 240V.
>

Fritz!box have NO US presence that I am aware of. I would deal with
them by way of the UK. I can always have a family member forward an
item.

> AVM's website is at www.avm.de/en - click on the relevant link for
> support.


OK.
>
> Hope this helps,


Yes it does. All info. helps the decision making process.
>

Cheers

Adrian.

 
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Stuart Millington
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      08-30-2006
On 28 Aug 2006 13:35:54 -0700, wrote:

>Which I have. I use a DLINK firewall/router immediately after the
>Cable interface. Unfortunately I am running out of ports.


In which case, the cheapest/easiest option would be to plug a switch
into the router and plug the ATA's into that? I picked up an 8 port
GigE switch for about £40. For the same, or less, money you should get
a larger 10/100 switch.


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