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Is a key tracker ever benign?

 
 
Gualtier Malde
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      08-17-2006
I had bought an NVU MP3 player and was installing it, and Zone Alarm was
coming up with this or that thing - a lot of them - and then it said
that the software was attempting to install a key tracker, at which
point I began denying all other stuff and let it install and then
uninstalled it and packed it up.

Was I being overly cautious? The only use I have heard of for a key
tracker is to report on what the computer user is doing.


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Sebastian Gottschalk
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      08-17-2006
Gualtier Malde wrote:
> I had bought an NVU MP3 player and was installing it, and Zone Alarm
> was coming up with this or that thing - a lot of them - and then it
> said that the software was attempting to install a key tracker,


Ah, and you think that would have any meaning? ZoneAlarm usually
randomly displays nonsense.

> at which point I began denying all other stuff and let it install and
> then uninstalled it and packed it up.


Ouch!

Beside that, what exactly were you installing? The standard USB mass
storage device driver, or any strange additional software?

> Was I being overly cautious?


Definitely. Well, why else would someone install ZA?

> The only use I have heard of for a key tracker is to report on what
> the computer user is doing.


I don't even know what this "key tracker" means, and I'm pretty sure
that both you and this ZA crap don't either. Do you mean a "change
notification handler" for a registry key?
 
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Jim Watt
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      08-17-2006
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:36:44 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
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>Gualtier Malde wrote:
>> I had bought an NVU MP3 player and was installing it, and Zone Alarm
>> was coming up with this or that thing - a lot of them - and then it
>> said that the software was attempting to install a key tracker,

>
>Ah, and you think that would have any meaning? ZoneAlarm usually
>randomly displays nonsense.


Mine does not, however Gottschalk consistently displays
nonsense.
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David H. Lipman
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      08-17-2006
From: "Gualtier Malde" <(E-Mail Removed)>

| I had bought an NVU MP3 player and was installing it, and Zone Alarm was
| coming up with this or that thing - a lot of them - and then it said
| that the software was attempting to install a key tracker, at which
| point I began denying all other stuff and let it install and then
| uninstalled it and packed it up.
|
| Was I being overly cautious? The only use I have heard of for a key
| tracker is to report on what the computer user is doing.
|

"Key Tracker" is new nomeclature.

Please define this term and post the EXACT message puportedly coming from ZoneAlarm.

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Zilbandy
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      08-18-2006
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:36:44 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
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>> Was I being overly cautious?

>
>Definitely. Well, why else would someone install ZA?


Ah, so you DO admit ZA has some benefit.
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Sebastian Gottschalk
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      08-18-2006
Zilbandy wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:36:44 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>> Was I being overly cautious?

>> Definitely. Well, why else would someone install ZA?

>
> Ah, so you DO admit ZA has some benefit.


How can you read that? Overcautiousness being a common reason for
installing ZA doesn't make it have some real benefit.

But of course it has. It's a pretty useful tool for simulating critical
network and system errors. And it's like a disco light for network traffic.
 
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Jim Watt
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      08-18-2006
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:23:04 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
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>Zilbandy wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:36:44 +0200, Sebastian Gottschalk
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>> Was I being overly cautious?
>>> Definitely. Well, why else would someone install ZA?

>>
>> Ah, so you DO admit ZA has some benefit.

>
>How can you read that? Overcautiousness being a common reason for
>installing ZA doesn't make it have some real benefit.
>
>But of course it has. It's a pretty useful tool for simulating critical
>network and system errors. And it's like a disco light for network traffic.


in your - worthless - opinion.
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Gualtier Malde
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      08-18-2006
David H. Lipman wrote:
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> "Key Tracker" is new nomeclature.
>
> Please define this term and post the EXACT message puportedly coming from ZoneAlarm.
>

I must have misremembered the name of something I took to mean some sort
of software which notes, I suppose, what keys or operations are being
performed with the purpose of reporting to some other software, either
internal or external to the computer in which it is installed. Spyware
would be the genus, I suppose.

"Key mapper"? - something like that.

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nemo_outis
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      08-18-2006
Gualtier Malde <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> What's a good replacement for OE on my WIN98SE machine? I reformated
> the disc, threw out Symantic, settled on Kerio (small footprint) and
> FireFox but according to some here... I must be awfully vulnerable
> through OE.
>
> I read a lot of newsarticles clipped by Google News. I see statements
> on a lot of site now marked "RSS". I know it's a file format but
> really don't know if it has any benefit to me. I don't blog... but may
> be interested if whatever program is needed doesn't have a long
> learning curve... I'm not THAT interested in reading questionable
> credibility.
>
> Any advise would be apprecaited.



I recommend Thinderbird. It's a very good general-purpose email program
(not quite as slick as Outlook but without the vulnerabilities and bloat as
well).

One of its best features is how well it handles encrypted email (with
GnuPG/Enigmail extension) including good support for PGP/Mime.

Regards,


 
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Jim Watt
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      08-18-2006
On 18 Aug 2006 16:32:48 GMT, "nemo_outis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I recommend Thinderbird.


so do I. Only things I dislike is it takes a long time
to load and changing passwords is well hidden. Apart from
which its excellent.
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