Re: Logitech Dives Into VoIP

"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > "Andrew Gabriel" <> wrote in
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> > > I was counting skype.
> >
> > I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.
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> What has that got to do with it?

Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.

Ivor

Ivor Jones

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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>>> "Andrew Gabriel" <> wrote in
>>> message news:44e37e61$0$632$
>>>> I was counting skype.
>>> I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.
>> What has that got to do with it?
>
> Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.

Which has nothing to do with it's status as a type of VoIP, nor its
popularity.

"Paul Cupis" <> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:
> > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Andrew Gabriel" <>
> > > > wrote in message
> > > > news:44e37e61$0$632$
> > > > > I was counting skype.
> > > > I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.
> > > What has that got to do with it?
> >
> > Everything, if you need to be able to use the system
> > from normal phones.
>
> Which has nothing to do with it's status as a type of
> VoIP, nor its popularity.

But everything if you need to be able to use it from normal phones.

Ivor

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:39:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.

What's your definition of "normal phone"?

"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:39:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > Everything, if you need to be able to use the system
> > from normal phones.
>
> What's your definition of "normal phone"?

A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's yours..?

Ivor

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's yours..?

What's a "normal phone socket?". In my company I can't plug in the
same handset that I use at home. Is my company not using "normal
phones"?

What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?

"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's
> > yours..?
>
> What's a "normal phone socket?". In my company I can't
> plug in the same handset that I use at home. Is my
> company not using "normal phones"?

Not if they won't work on normal landlines, no. I don't know what system
you use at work, but I would guess they are "system" phones of some sort.

> What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?

Who mentioned mobiles..?

Ivor

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
>news:
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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>> What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?
>
>Who mentioned mobiles..?

To many people I know a mobile phone is the only type of phone they
use. Therefore to them it's a "normal phone".

The problem you have is that you are looking at it all in a very
narrow way as to what suits you. While I don't personally use it, to
many people (maybe the majority for all I know) use Skype as a voip
service. Who are you to say that they're wrong?

"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:
> > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?
> >
> > Who mentioned mobiles..?
>
> To many people I know a mobile phone is the only type of
> phone they use. Therefore to them it's a "normal phone".

You can't use VoIP over a mobile, hence it is not normal in that context.

> The problem you have is that you are looking at it all in
> a very narrow way as to what suits you. While I don't
> personally use it, to many people (maybe the majority for
> all I know) use Skype as a voip service. Who are you to
> say that they're wrong?

I don't. I simply said that any system that requires a computer to be on
in order to function is no use to most people. MAybe I'm wrong, I don't
think so.

Ivor

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:35:32 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>I don't. I simply said that any system that requires a computer to be on
>in order to function is no use to most people. MAybe I'm wrong,

You are wrong and blinkered by your own system's deficiencies.