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Ivor Jones
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      08-17-2006
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > "Andrew Gabriel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> > > I was counting skype.

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> > I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.

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> What has that got to do with it?


Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.

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      08-17-2006
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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>>> "Andrew Gabriel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>>>> I was counting skype.
>>> I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.

>> What has that got to do with it?

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> Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.


Which has nothing to do with it's status as a type of VoIP, nor its
popularity.
 
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      08-17-2006
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:39:49 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > > > "Andrew Gabriel" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > > wrote in message
> > > > news:44e37e61$0$632$(E-Mail Removed)
> > > > > I was counting skype.
> > > > I wasn't, because it isn't usable with ATA's etc.
> > > What has that got to do with it?

> >
> > Everything, if you need to be able to use the system
> > from normal phones.

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> Which has nothing to do with it's status as a type of
> VoIP, nor its popularity.


But everything if you need to be able to use it from normal phones.

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      08-17-2006
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:39:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>Everything, if you need to be able to use the system from normal phones.


What's your definition of "normal phone"?

 
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"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:39:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > Everything, if you need to be able to use the system
> > from normal phones.

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> What's your definition of "normal phone"?


A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's yours..?

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      08-17-2006
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's yours..?


What's a "normal phone socket?". In my company I can't plug in the
same handset that I use at home. Is my company not using "normal
phones"?

What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?

 
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      08-17-2006
"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > A phone that plugs into a normal phone socket, what's
> > yours..?

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> What's a "normal phone socket?". In my company I can't
> plug in the same handset that I use at home. Is my
> company not using "normal phones"?


Not if they won't work on normal landlines, no. I don't know what system
you use at work, but I would guess they are "system" phones of some sort.

> What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?


Who mentioned mobiles..?

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      08-17-2006
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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>> What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?

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>Who mentioned mobiles..?


To many people I know a mobile phone is the only type of phone they
use. Therefore to them it's a "normal phone".

The problem you have is that you are looking at it all in a very
narrow way as to what suits you. While I don't personally use it, to
many people (maybe the majority for all I know) use Skype as a voip
service. Who are you to say that they're wrong?
 
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      08-18-2006


"Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:53 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
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> > "Al" <.@_.invalid> wrote in message
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> > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:11:18 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
> > >
> > > What about mobile phones - are they "abnormal"?

> >
> > Who mentioned mobiles..?

>
> To many people I know a mobile phone is the only type of
> phone they use. Therefore to them it's a "normal phone".


You can't use VoIP over a mobile, hence it is not normal in that context.

> The problem you have is that you are looking at it all in
> a very narrow way as to what suits you. While I don't
> personally use it, to many people (maybe the majority for
> all I know) use Skype as a voip service. Who are you to
> say that they're wrong?


I don't. I simply said that any system that requires a computer to be on
in order to function is no use to most people. MAybe I'm wrong, I don't
think so.

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      08-18-2006
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:35:32 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

>I don't. I simply said that any system that requires a computer to be on
>in order to function is no use to most people. MAybe I'm wrong,


You are wrong and blinkered by your own system's deficiencies.

 
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