substitute list sign

Hi all,
sorry if I'm asking a question that has been answered 5000 times before,
but I didn't find a thing on that in Google. I want to do the following:
If I use subordinating lists, each ordered list counts for itself (which
is good), but I'd like to prepend the other numbers. So that it looks
like this:
Now:
1. bar
1. foo
2. foobar
Then:
1. bar
1.1. foo
1.2. foobar

The other thing I'd like to do, is to remove the sign completely in
unordered lists. Is there a way to do this with css? Or without, but
without using a deprecated method? I wanted to append a "valid
HTML"-picture on my file, when it's done. And because I'm using the
"strict" dialect that is only possible with undeprecated methods.
tia and cu
nullplan
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Markus Wichmann

Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Markus Wichmann
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> If I use subordinating lists, each ordered list counts for itself (which
> is good), but I'd like to prepend the other numbers.

This would be possible using CSS counters, but browser support is very
poor.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#counters

Other than that you would probably have to use some sort of
pre-processing to generate the numbers.

> The other thing I'd like to do, is to remove the sign completely in
> unordered lists.

ul {list-style-type: none;}

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Mark Parnell schrieb:
> Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Markus Wichmann
> <> declared in alt.html:
>
>> If I use subordinating lists, each ordered list counts for itself (which
>> is good), but I'd like to prepend the other numbers.
>
> This would be possible using CSS counters, but browser support is very
> poor.
>
> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#counters
>
> Other than that you would probably have to use some sort of
> pre-processing to generate the numbers.
>
>> The other thing I'd like to do, is to remove the sign completely in
>> unordered lists.
>
> ul {list-style-type: none;}
>

Well, that one with ul worked, thanks for that. And I finally got it
right with the counters. I used the following:

ol {counter-reset: item}
ol li { display:block }
ol li:before {content: counters(item,".") " ";
counter-increment: item;
}
ul li:before { content: normal;
counter-increment: none;
}

This works fine with my list. It has multiple nested ordered lists, but
there are a few unordered list, which should be displayed with text and
markup (hyperlinks, e.g.) only.
Thanks again and
cu,
nullplan

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To forget is also human...

Deciding to do something for the good of humanity, Markus Wichmann
<> declared in alt.html:

> Well, that one with ul worked, thanks for that.

You're welcome.

> And I finally got it right with the counters.

In what browsers? I'd be very surprised if it worked in IE - IIRC IE
doesn't support counters at all.

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