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I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
tomato kind of thing)
TIA

worzel a écrit :
> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
> ever care about the tuple's immuutability?

Because, from a purely pratical POV, only an immutable object can be
used as kay in a dict. So you can use tuples for 'composed key'.

Bruno

worzel wrote:
> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
> ever care about the tuple's immuutability?

Mainly for security and speed. Many library functions return info by returning
a reference to an internally held tuple, and could be damaged / compromised
/ corrupted if that internal data was modified by malicious code. If tuples
were mutable (lists) then it would be necessary to return a copy instead.

> Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
> tomato kind of thing)

Try 'Two-pull'.

Steve

Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys - pretty much answers the question for
me.

'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.


"Steve Horsley" <> wrote in message
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> worzel wrote:
>> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
>> ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
>
> Mainly for security and speed. Many library functions return info by
> returning
> a reference to an internally held tuple, and could be damaged /
> compromised
> / corrupted if that internal data was modified by malicious code. If
> tuples
> were mutable (lists) then it would be necessary to return a copy instead.
>
>> Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
>> tomato kind of thing)
>
> Try 'Two-pull'.
>
> Steve

worzel wrote:

> Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys - pretty much answers the question for
> me.
>
> 'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
>
Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
-- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".

So, basically, say whatever you want. Language is about communication

you-say-tomato-ly y'rs - steve
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Steve Holden wrote:
> Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
> -- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".

Probably the same ones who attend Tuppl-ware parties.

--Irmen

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:00:27 +0800, "worzel" <> declaimed
the following in comp.lang.python:

> Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
> tomato kind of thing)

I probably slaughter the word... tup-ell

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worzel wrote:
> I get what the difference is between a tuple and a list, but why would I
> ever care about the tuple's immuutability?
> Also, do you say 'too-ple' or 'chu-ple' - if you get my drift. (tomato or
> tomato kind of thing)
> TIA
>
>
I use the Festival Speech Synthesis System to learn pronunciations
sometimes. The American english voice is quite accurate.

--
Sean Dolan

yes, "tyoopl" - thats what I meant by 'choo-ple' (not v good at the
phonetics)
As a scouse git (though living in Australia), I would definitely say
'tyoopl'.

"Steve Holden" <> wrote in message
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> worzel wrote:
>
>> Cheers - thanks for the feedback guys - pretty much answers the question
>> for me.
>>
>> 'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
>>
> Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl" --
> NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".
>
> So, basically, say whatever you want. Language is about communication
>
> you-say-tomato-ly y'rs - steve
> --
> Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/
> Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/
> Holden Web LLC +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119

Steve Holden wrote:
> worzel wrote:
> >'Two-Pull' it is then, thanks.
> >
> Well, it might be "Two-Pull" in American, but in English it's "tyoopl"
> -- NOT "choopl" (blearch!). I've also heard people say "tuppl".
>
> So, basically, say whatever you want. Language is about communication

Or just write it down and don't say the word at all (-:

regards,
Gerrit, who actually says tüpel.

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