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I'm concerned that google groups is not correctly reflecting the
python lists. A month ago I announced the xsdbXML framework to the
python list and the python-announce list. As you can see from the
links
below the python announce submission was approved by the moderators
(thanks!)
and the python list submission also went out, but the messages cannot
be found at google groups.

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/254479.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/003583.html

Is it a google bug? Or is it something darker, like an anti-Python
conspiracy at google?

Inquiring minds want to know.

-- Aaron Watters

===
There are 3 kinds of people, those who can count and those who can't.
-- folklore.

On 7 Jan 2005 11:59:25 -0800, aaronwmail- wrote:

>I'm concerned that google groups is not correctly reflecting the
>python lists. A month ago I announced the xsdbXML framework to the
>python list and the python-announce list. As you can see from the
>links
>below the python announce submission was approved by the moderators
>(thanks!)
>and the python list submission also went out, but the messages cannot
>be found at google groups.
>
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/254479.html
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/003583.html
>
>Is it a google bug? Or is it something darker, like an anti-Python
>conspiracy at google?
>
>Inquiring minds want to know.
>
What did you google with? Is this it?
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=Search+Groups

I.e., searching for one of the first lines in your references

"The xsdbXML framework provides a flexible and well defined infrastructure"

in google groups.

Regards,
Bengt Richter

aaronwmail- wrote:
> I'm concerned that google groups is not correctly reflecting the
> python lists. A month ago I announced the xsdbXML framework to the
> python list and the python-announce list. As you can see from the
> links
> below the python announce submission was approved by the moderators
> (thanks!)
> and the python list submission also went out, but the messages cannot
> be found at google groups.
>
>
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/254479.html
>
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/003583.html
>
> Is it a google bug? Or is it something darker, like an anti-Python
> conspiracy at google?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> -- Aaron Watters
>
> ===
> There are 3 kinds of people, those who can count and those who can't.
> -- folklore.

Exact same thing happened to me on Jan 2nd.

Bengt Richter wrote:
> What did you google with? Is this it?
>
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=Search+Groups

That was my *reply* to one of the original posts using Google,
which I faked up when I couldn't find it (posted using google).
The two originals aren't there.

hmmm. -- Aaron Watters
===
You'd be paranoid too, if everyone was out to get you!

aaronwmail- wrote:
> I'm concerned that google groups is not correctly reflecting the
> python lists. A month ago I announced the xsdbXML framework to the
> python list and the python-announce list. As you can see from the
> links
> below the python announce submission was approved by the moderators
> (thanks!)
> and the python list submission also went out, but the messages cannot
> be found at google groups.
>
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/254479.html
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pyt...er/003583.html
>
> Is it a google bug? Or is it something darker, like an anti-Python
> conspiracy at google?

You didn't post via Google, right? Just sent to the mailing list?

I believe that Google knows nothing about mailing lists, but
watches a news feed, so if the list/Usenet gateway failed to
deliver those messages, Google would never see them.

Furthermore, news delivery is not necessarily guaranteed.
(Actually, I don't recall how reliable the protocol is,
but I doubt it's foolproof.) If any one of the news
servers between yours and Google's happened to drop some
messages, it's quite possible Google would never see
them.

Given the "architecture" of Usenet, I wouldn't be surprised
if Google missed messages consistently, a very small percentage
of the time.

-Peter

aaronwmail- wrote:
> I'm concerned that google groups is not correctly reflecting
> the python lists.
> [...]
> Is it a google bug?

Yes, Google Groups Beta is missing messages:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...1c189d34?tvc=2
http://tinyurl.com/6vybw
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...745c7784c81890
http://tinyurl.com/4keqh
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...4c12517c75eb24