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Pythonistas,

My loyal fans will remember that I did a Python IDE roundup for
_Charming Python_ a couple years back. Now I have another such roundup
lined up... not the very next article, but it's there on the list.

In the intervening years, I've hardly touched anything one might call an
IDE. I've looked at screenshots from time to time, and read various
announcements. But really I just use text editors and command lines.

Here's the thing: I probably have room to look at about four different
tools in one article. In fact, it wouldn't be absurd to only do three.
Past that, I cannot do more than list contact information and platform
in the available words. I'm sure there are more than four IDEs that
-someone- loves to work with out there... but I need to have a cutoff.

So c.l.py readers... make the case for your favorite one getting on the
list. I have a while to ponder the opinions advanced, should this
prompt some discussion (it may take a little while to order review
copies of commercial tools and/or get things installed).

Yours, David...

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(David Mertz) writes:

> So c.l.py readers... make the case for your favorite one getting on the
> list. I have a while to ponder the opinions advanced, should this
> prompt some discussion (it may take a little while to order review
> copies of commercial tools and/or get things installed).

This one is easy .

My voting goes for:

1) Emacs + python-mode + ipython as interactive shell inside emacs +
speedbar as class browser (I use this... actually I use emacs for
everything )

2) Eric3

3) Eclipse + Trustudio

4) Another one randomly

PS: Under windows my favourite is PythonWin

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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:39:17 -0400, (David Mertz)
wrote:


>Here's the thing: I probably have room to look at about four different
>tools in one article. In fact, it wouldn't be absurd to only do three.
>Past that, I cannot do more than list contact information and platform
>in the available words. I'm sure there are more than four IDEs that
>-someone- loves to work with out there... but I need to have a cutoff.

At least you will have to comment the Komodo from ActiveState.

Rune

Dialtone <dialtone#NOSPAM#.> writes:

> 3) Eclipse + Trustudio

Mmm i don't think so. IDLE is better
And i think that's not a great idea to use an IDE
that needs a JVM to run only to have syntax highlighting
and a not-so-smart indentation feature. For Trustudio you
need a JVM (~20 Mb) , Eclipse (~60Mb), Trustudio plugins
(~1.5 Mb)

For IDLE you need nothing

When Trustudio will become really useful, i think that'll
be the time to look at it, since Eclipse itself is awesome
for refactoring and Java coding

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Lawrence "Rhymes" Oluyede
http://loluyede.blogspot.com

"Dialtone" <dialtone#NOSPAM#.> wrote in message
news:...
> (David Mertz) writes:
>
> > So c.l.py readers... make the case for your favorite one getting on the
> > list. I have a while to ponder the opinions advanced, should this
> > prompt some discussion (it may take a little while to order review
> > copies of commercial tools and/or get things installed).
>
> This one is easy .
>
> My voting goes for:
>
> 1) Emacs + python-mode + ipython as interactive shell inside emacs +
> speedbar as class browser (I use this... actually I use emacs for
> everything )

I use the same Emacs configuration with the addition of ELSE (with the
python code templates for easy code input) and PyMacs (for extending Emacs
using Python).

>
> 2) Eric3
>
> 3) Eclipse + Trustudio
>
> 4) Another one randomly
>
> PS: Under windows my favourite is PythonWin
>
> --
> Valentino Volonghi, Regia SpA, Milan
>
> Linux User #310274, Debian Sid Proud User

David Mertz wrote:
>
> So c.l.py readers... make the case for your favorite one getting on the
> list. I have a while to ponder the opinions advanced, should this
> prompt some discussion (it may take a little while to order review
> copies of commercial tools and/or get things installed).

Boy, this is a hard one. I currently use IDLE for all my work, mostly
since it comes gratis with Python. For that reason I find myself wanting
to argue for its inclusion so I have a baseline for comparison.

Beyond that, I think the ones I'd be most interested in hearing about
would be eric3 and Komodo, mainly because those are ones where I've gone
to the trouble to look at their web pages.

Chris




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"Peter Milliken" <> writes:

> I use the same Emacs configuration with the addition of ELSE (with the
> python code templates for easy code input) and PyMacs (for extending Emacs
> using Python).

Cool! How does ELSE works? How could i setup Emacs to use it easily?

PyMacs? Wow I'll check it out tomorrow

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Lawrence "Rhymes" Oluyede
http://loluyede.blogspot.com

David Mertz wrote:

>
> So c.l.py readers... make the case for your favorite one getting on the
> list. I have a while to ponder the opinions advanced, should this
> prompt some discussion (it may take a little while to order review
> copies of commercial tools and/or get things installed).
>
> Yours, David...

I think it would be great to focus on truly cross platform IDEs. I
regularly use Python on Win32, Linux, and Mac OS X, and I tend to prefer
editors that work on at least those platforms (more would be great!). I
imagine other people platform-hop a lot as well. And cross
platform-ness is definitely keeping with the spirit of python.

--Paul M.

"David Mertz" <> wrote in message
news:mailman.1061920192.21278.python-...
<snip request for IDE suggestions>

Depending on how you want to define IDE, Leo would be my choice. I use it to
develop code, documentation, web pages as well as a arranging thoughts and
ideas in a structured way. For me, it is the best IDE because it integrates
with the way I think. The ability to represent the same information in
mutiple ways is a very powerful feature that I haven't seen matched in other
IDE's.

As a different spin on IDE's, Leo is definitely worth a look.

Paul

My favorites IDEs:

1)Eric3 (despite a little work still to do) under Linux;
2)Pythonwin under Windows;
3)Komodo if I would buy one.
4)Pycrust is also a useful tool

Luca

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