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Moritz Beller
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      06-04-2004
Hello!

Users with any sort of experience with this book, especially in terms
of coding and understanding the code are welcome her.

Does it really damage a C++ programmer's coding style as one said on, if
I remember correctly, Amazon? Does it cover the main parts to know about
and is it well written?

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Thomas Matthews
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      06-04-2004
Moritz Beller wrote:

> Hello!
>
> Users with any sort of experience with this book, especially in terms
> of coding and understanding the code are welcome her.
>
> Does it really damage a C++ programmer's coding style as one said on, if
> I remember correctly, Amazon? Does it cover the main parts to know about
> and is it well written?
>
> best regards,
> Moritz
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> mail momo.beller at t-online dot de


[Sarcasm On]
I truly believe that "Mastering Algorithms With C" damages a person's
C++ coding style. Just as any philosphical view can damage one's
thinking processes. This is the re primary reason I don't read speed
limit signs, since they will damage the speed at which I am driving.
[Sarcasm Off]

I would hope that most humans are intelligent enough to objectively
read books and learn from them. Take what you believe will help
you from the book. If the knowledge doesn't help you, then so mote
it be. However, one should also read more about the same topic to
find out what the truth is. My high school physics teacher once
said, "Truth is consistency." If the content is not correct, then
learn why and make notes for yourself.

Apply what you have learned. If it doesn't feel write or "work"
for you, then learn something else.

"Do I need permission to step in the puddle?"
"Is it a deep puddle, a safe puddle, a well rounded puddle?"

"Just step in it."

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Moritz Beller
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      06-04-2004
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:08:33 GMT
Thomas Matthews <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> "Just step in it."


Okay, and I don't even have to pay for it myself .

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Alan Balmer
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      06-04-2004
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:08:33 GMT, Thomas Matthews
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>I would hope that most humans are intelligent enough to objectively
>read books and learn from them. Take what you believe will help
>you from the book. If the knowledge doesn't help you, then so mote
>it be. However, one should also read more about the same topic to
>find out what the truth is. My high school physics teacher once
>said, "Truth is consistency." If the content is not correct, then
>learn why and make notes for yourself.


Good advice for someone who has the breadth of experience to be
objective, perhaps not so good for the beginner.

Some books are better than others. Some books are a liability for the
beginner.

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CBFalconer
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      06-04-2004
Alan Balmer wrote:
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I would hope that most humans are intelligent enough to objectively
>> read books and learn from them. Take what you believe will help
>> you from the book. If the knowledge doesn't help you, then so mote
>> it be. However, one should also read more about the same topic to
>> find out what the truth is. My high school physics teacher once
>> said, "Truth is consistency." If the content is not correct, then
>> learn why and make notes for yourself.

>
> Good advice for someone who has the breadth of experience to be
> objective, perhaps not so good for the beginner.
>
> Some books are better than others. Some books are a liability for
> the beginner.


Why don't you just come out and specify BullSchildt.

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Dan Pop
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      06-07-2004
In <(E-Mail Removed)> CBFalconer <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Alan Balmer wrote:
>>
>> Some books are better than others. Some books are a liability for
>> the beginner.

>
>Why don't you just come out and specify BullSchildt.


Probably because he has plenty of competition.

Come to think of it, it's been years since I've seen a newbie mention one
of his books. All the recent references to Schildt came from regulars...
Are his books (finally) out of print or what?

The more recent references from newbies were to books like "C for Idiots"
and "Learn C in X Seconds".

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Darrell Grainger
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      06-07-2004
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Dan Pop wrote:

> In <(E-Mail Removed)> CBFalconer <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
> >Alan Balmer wrote:
> >>
> >> Some books are better than others. Some books are a liability for
> >> the beginner.

> >
> >Why don't you just come out and specify BullSchildt.

>
> Probably because he has plenty of competition.
>
> Come to think of it, it's been years since I've seen a newbie mention one
> of his books. All the recent references to Schildt came from regulars...
> Are his books (finally) out of print or what?


Many of his books are out of print. The books that have an OS in the
title, e.g. C Programming for Windows NT, are out of print. Many of his
books are still in print. He has a style of writing that many enjoy. It is
too bad that he is technically inaccurate.

Last newbie posting I saw was around April of this year. I've noticed that
Schildt is getting translated to different languages. I tend to see
newbies from German, Spain, South America, etc. posting about his books.

> The more recent references from newbies were to books like "C for Idiots"
> and "Learn C in X Seconds".


Fortunately there are more references to Dietel & Dietel or K.N.King then
to these other books.

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      06-07-2004
Dan Pop wrote:
> CBFalconer <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>> Alan Balmer wrote:
>>>
>>> Some books are better than others. Some books are a liability
>>> for the beginner.

>>
>> Why don't you just come out and specify BullSchildt.

>
> Probably because he has plenty of competition.
>
> Come to think of it, it's been years since I've seen a newbie
> mention one of his books. All the recent references to Schildt
> came from regulars... Are his books (finally) out of print or
> what?


I believe he is devoting himself to C++ these days, based on what
I see on bookstore shelves.

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