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Larry__Weiss wrote:
>
> Is a K&R "C Programming Language (3rd Edition)" ever going to exist?

No.

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pete

In article <>, Alan Balmer wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:13:41 GMT, pete <> wrote:
>
>>Larry__Weiss wrote:
>>>
>>> Is a K&R "C Programming Language (3rd Edition)" ever going to exist?
>>
>>No.
>
> That sounds very definite, but may I ask how you know?

Read Dennis Ritchie's web site at Bell for the straight dope.

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Neil Cerutti

On 27 Aug 2003 17:24:19 GMT, Neil Cerutti <> wrote:

>In article <>, Alan Balmer wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:13:41 GMT, pete <> wrote:
>>
>>>Larry__Weiss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is a K&R "C Programming Language (3rd Edition)" ever going to exist?
>>>
>>>No.
>>
>> That sounds very definite, but may I ask how you know?
>
>Read Dennis Ritchie's web site at Bell for the straight dope.

Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't visited there for a while I
haven't yet spotted anything about the 3rd edition, but there are a
couple of new items I hadn't seen.

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting

Alan Balmer wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2003 17:24:19 GMT, Neil Cerutti <> wrote:
> >In article <>, Alan Balmer wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:13:41 GMT, pete <> wrote:
> >>>Larry__Weiss wrote:
> >>>> Is a K&R "C Programming Language (3rd Edition)" ever going to exist?
> >>>
> >>>No.
> >>
> >> That sounds very definite, but may I ask how you know?
> >
> >Read Dennis Ritchie's web site at Bell for the straight dope.
>
> Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't visited there for a while I
> haven't yet spotted anything about the 3rd edition, but there are a
> couple of new items I hadn't seen.
>

Re: http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/

I didn't find it either. What did it use to say?

- Larry Weiss

The last major C language standard publication was followed (in fact, anticipated)
by a lot of new books, including K&R's "C Programming Language (2nd Edition)"

The text of that standards document was published in a very affordable book,
Schildt's "Annotated ANSI C standard".

I don't see anything like that to help educate software developers so that
market demand is boosted for implementations of C99.

At least O'Reilly's "C Pocket Reference" is C99 aware. Maybe there
will be another edition of their "Practical C Programming" for C99.

I have long thought that O'Reilly didn't give C the attention it deserved
because it conceded the role of a flag-ship tutorial to K&R. If, in fact,
there is no hope of a revised K&R, then maybe O'Reilly should reconsider.

- Larry Weiss

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:49:21 -0500, Larry__Weiss <>
wrote:

>
>The last major C language standard publication was followed (in fact, anticipated)
>by a lot of new books, including K&R's "C Programming Language (2nd Edition)"
>
>The text of that standards document was published in a very affordable book,
>Schildt's "Annotated ANSI C standard".

The standard text was good, the annotations were notoriously bad <g>.
>
>I don't see anything like that to help educate software developers so that
>market demand is boosted for implementations of C99.
>
>At least O'Reilly's "C Pocket Reference" is C99 aware. Maybe there
>will be another edition of their "Practical C Programming" for C99.
>
>I have long thought that O'Reilly didn't give C the attention it deserved
>because it conceded the role of a flag-ship tutorial to K&R. If, in fact,
>there is no hope of a revised K&R, then maybe O'Reilly should reconsider.
>
> - Larry Weiss

The only book I've found useful for C99 is Harbison and Steele - "C, A
Reference Manual."

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting

Larry__Weiss <> wrote:
>
> The text of that standards document was published in a very affordable book,
> Schildt's "Annotated ANSI C standard".
>
> I don't see anything like that to help educate software developers so that
> market demand is boosted for implementations of C99.

You mean like "The C Standard" ISBN 0-470-84573-2, soon to be published
by John Wiley & Sons ($65)? Of course, the actual standard is much more
affordable, at least in electronic form ($1, as is mentioned here
frequently.

-Larry Jones

I sure like summer vacation. -- Calvin

wrote in message news:<>...
> Larry__Weiss <> wrote:
> >
> > The text of that standards document was published in a very affordable book,
> > Schildt's "Annotated ANSI C standard".
> >
> > I don't see anything like that to help educate software developers so that
> > market demand is boosted for implementations of C99.
>
> You mean like "The C Standard" ISBN 0-470-84573-2, soon to be published
> by John Wiley & Sons ($65)? Of course, the actual standard is much more
> affordable, at least in electronic form ($1, as is mentioned here
> frequently.
>
> -Larry Jones

I don't see much point in these books on the C standard(The C standard
itself can be hard to read sometimes and someone might interpret what
is said in it incorrectly -- I have done that several times, and iirc
this happened in a book written by schildt?). All you need is to buy a
copy of the standard and an ISP so you can access comp.lang.c, I have
faith in the (experts/language lawyers) here

>
> I sure like summer vacation. -- Calvin

j wrote:
> wrote in message news:<>...
> > You mean like "The C Standard" ISBN 0-470-84573-2, soon to be published
> > by John Wiley & Sons ($65)?
>
> I don't see much point in these books on the C standard(The C standard
> itself can be hard to read sometimes and someone might interpret what
> is said in it incorrectly --
>

I sure hope that this "is" the C Standard, and not a book about the C Standard.

I also hope they print millions of copies, and that I can buy extras darned cheap
at the remaindered bookstores like I did with the Schildt book. <grin>
BTW, I wish I had bought several dozen copies of the Schildt book at the $3
price I saw once at a Microcenter store. The least expensive price of that book
as a used-book on Amazon right now is over $20.

Larry__Weiss <> wrote:
>
>> wrote in message news:<>...
>> > You mean like "The C Standard" ISBN 0-470-84573-2, soon to be published
>> > by John Wiley & Sons ($65)?
>
> I sure hope that this "is" the C Standard, and not a book about the C Standard.

It is the C Standard with the corrections from TC1 incorporated into it.

-Larry Jones

Oh, now don't YOU start on me. -- Calvin