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Old 01-22-2004, 05:12 AM   #1
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i got sold a motherboard with 1.5 gig of ram, but it wouldnt function
properly because that motherboard wont support that much ram. so i took out
i ram module and have been doing fine
the computer company now is willing to give me a new motherboard, but they
said i will have to clean reinstall winXP after the exchange or it wont work
well. i dont want to do it, it took me 30 hours to get everything set up
how i like it
the question is:
is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
reinstall winXP?

thanks

feivel




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Old 01-22-2004, 06:15 AM   #2
DeMoN LaG
 
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"feivel" <> wrote in
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> is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
> reinstall winXP?


Unless the new board is almost identical (as in, same chipset, etc) to the
old one, yes, you will more than likely have to reinstall XP, or manually
change out a /lot/ of devices in device manager, and even then it may not
work.

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Old 01-22-2004, 06:39 AM   #3
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thank you
i was afraid of that

feivel
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> "feivel" <> wrote in
> news:euadnTZrvvQixpLdRVn-:
>
> > is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
> > reinstall winXP?

>
> Unless the new board is almost identical (as in, same chipset, etc) to the
> old one, yes, you will more than likely have to reinstall XP, or manually
> change out a /lot/ of devices in device manager, and even then it may not
> work.
>
> --
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Old 01-22-2004, 01:43 PM   #4
Thor
 
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XP is quite bitchy about changing motherboards. As demon said, you will more
than likely have to reinstall unless the replacement is practically
identical.



"feivel" <> wrote in message
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> thank you
> i was afraid of that
>
> feivel
> "DeMoN LaG" <n@a> wrote in message
> news:Xns9478CE56A112Wobbly@216.168.3.30...
> > "feivel" <> wrote in
> > news:euadnTZrvvQixpLdRVn-:
> >
> > > is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
> > > reinstall winXP?

> >
> > Unless the new board is almost identical (as in, same chipset, etc) to

the
> > old one, yes, you will more than likely have to reinstall XP, or

manually
> > change out a /lot/ of devices in device manager, and even then it may

not
> > work.
> >
> > --
> > AIM: FrznFoodClerk
> > email: de_on-lag@co_cast.net (_ = m)
> > website: under construction
> > Need a technician in the south Jersey area?
> > email/IM for rates/services

>
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:14 PM   #5
Trent©
 
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:12:34 -0600, "feivel"
<> wrote:

>i got sold a motherboard with 1.5 gig of ram, but it wouldnt function
>properly because that motherboard wont support that much ram. so i took out
>i ram module and have been doing fine
>the computer company now is willing to give me a new motherboard, but they
>said i will have to clean reinstall winXP after the exchange or it wont work
>well. i dont want to do it, it took me 30 hours to get everything set up
>how i like it
>the question is:
>is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
>reinstall winXP?


Maybe.

You should be able to do a repair install...which should save most of
your settings. You definitely will be able to save all your data.
You might want to do a backup before you start, though...you never
know.

There's a white paper on the MSFT site about putting the chipset
drivers for the new mb on the drive first...before you make the
change. In some cases, the OS will then hunt for and find the new
hardware. Sorry...don't have the link.

One common problem with this kind of change over, however, is failure
to automatically shut down the computer.

Good luck.


Have a nice week...

Trent

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Old 01-22-2004, 04:31 PM   #6
mark mandel
 
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"feivel" <> wrote in message
news:euadnTZrvvQixpLdRVn-...
> i got sold a motherboard with 1.5 gig of ram, but it wouldnt function
> properly because that motherboard wont support that much ram. so i took

out
> i ram module and have been doing fine
> the computer company now is willing to give me a new motherboard, but they
> said i will have to clean reinstall winXP after the exchange or it wont

work
> well. i dont want to do it, it took me 30 hours to get everything set up
> how i like it
> the question is:
> is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
> reinstall winXP?
>
> thanks
>
> feivel


You could restore a backup from a Ghost image file(like the one from
Symantec's Norton)but you still would have to do a repair/install as I've
discovered.
>
>



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Old 01-22-2004, 05:20 PM   #7
Jerry G.
 
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Normally XP will have to be re-installed, and re-registered. It takes poll
on the serial numbers of the firmware, exact system configuration, and
especially the serial numbers of the CPU.

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"feivel" <> wrote in message
news:euadnTZrvvQixpLdRVn-...
i got sold a motherboard with 1.5 gig of ram, but it wouldnt function
properly because that motherboard wont support that much ram. so i took out
i ram module and have been doing fine
the computer company now is willing to give me a new motherboard, but they
said i will have to clean reinstall winXP after the exchange or it wont work
well. i dont want to do it, it took me 30 hours to get everything set up
how i like it
the question is:
is that true that if i put in a different motherboard, i will have to
reinstall winXP?

thanks

feivel



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Old 01-22-2004, 09:21 PM   #8
Thor
 
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"Jerry G." <> wrote in message
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> Normally XP will have to be re-installed, and re-registered. It takes

poll
> on the serial numbers of the firmware, exact system configuration, and
> especially the serial numbers of the CPU.


It depends on the amount of hardware changed. In many cases, swapping the
motherboard will not initiate a request for re-activation. The hardware hash
is generated from a number of the components in the system not merely the
motherboard. The harddrive, motherboard BIOS, NIC card GUID, and other
components. It takes changing certain minimum number of components involved
in the hash to force a reactivation. If you have a motherboard with mostly
onboard stuff, including the NIC, then it will likely want to reactivate,
but if your system has mostly discreet cards for sound, video, network, etc.
and you merely swap the motherboard, it shouldn't be enough to request
reactivation.



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Old 01-22-2004, 10:12 PM   #9
mark mandel
 
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"Thor" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Jerry G." <> wrote in message
> news:bup0to$qm3$...
> > Normally XP will have to be re-installed, and re-registered. It takes

> poll
> > on the serial numbers of the firmware, exact system configuration, and
> > especially the serial numbers of the CPU.

>
> It depends on the amount of hardware changed. In many cases, swapping the
> motherboard will not initiate a request for re-activation. The hardware

hash
> is generated from a number of the components in the system not merely the
> motherboard. The harddrive, motherboard BIOS, NIC card GUID, and other
> components. It takes changing certain minimum number of components

involved
> in the hash to force a reactivation. If you have a motherboard with mostly
> onboard stuff, including the NIC, then it will likely want to reactivate,
> but if your system has mostly discreet cards for sound, video, network,

etc.
> and you merely swap the motherboard, it shouldn't be enough to request
> reactivation.


Yes, I read that it's based on a point system with the different components
assigned different values. And if you tally up enough, then activation(or
re-activation more precisely)will be required.

Mark Mandell
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>



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Old 01-22-2004, 11:55 PM   #10
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mark mandel wrote:
> "Thor" <> wrote in message
> news:40103e27$0$98863$...
>>
>> "Jerry G." <> wrote in message
>> news:bup0to$qm3$...
>>> Normally XP will have to be re-installed, and re-registered. It
>>> takes poll on the serial numbers of the firmware, exact system
>>> configuration, and especially the serial numbers of the CPU.

>>
>> It depends on the amount of hardware changed. In many cases,
>> swapping the motherboard will not initiate a request for
>> re-activation. The hardware hash is generated from a number of the
>> components in the system not merely the motherboard. The harddrive,
>> motherboard BIOS, NIC card GUID, and other components. It takes
>> changing certain minimum number of components involved in the hash
>> to force a reactivation. If you have a motherboard with mostly
>> onboard stuff, including the NIC, then it will likely want to
>> reactivate, but if your system has mostly discreet cards for sound,
>> video, network, etc. and you merely swap the motherboard, it
>> shouldn't be enough to request reactivation.

>
> Yes, I read that it's based on a point system with the different
> components assigned different values. And if you tally up enough,
> then activation(or re-activation more precisely)will be required.
>
> Mark Mandell


I believe it was something like 4 or more device changes will trigger
it. There was a distinction between major devices (MB) and minor ones
too (Modem)

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