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> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:21:47 -0800, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
> dot com> wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:55:51 -0600, "ZForce" <>
>>> wrote:
>
>>> I'd stick with the 256 (2x12 because later, when you upgrade
>>> memory, the old sticks become worthless. Also, "Crucial" sells 512
>>> sticks for about $90. So why pay $90 to add only another 256.
>
>> I disagree. And I wouldn't order online either...make sure you
>> talk to someone to get exactly what you want. And what you want is
>> a single stick of 512, none of this two stick crap (it will cost a
>> little more). When you upgrade, you buy another stick of 512 and
>> have a gig of ram. If your going to go for 1gig of ram the 2 sticks
>> is fine, but for 512 megs, you should get a single stick...if you
>> don't ever plan on upgrading...then forget it and take whatever they
>> give you. Also, I have been reading a few articles as of late,
>> that suggest
>> your performance actually severly suffers with anything more than two
>> sticks of ram. Here's a link to the article, but the part about the
>> memory isn't until the end, so I am only showing that part of it:
>>
>>
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...rt2/page14.asp
>>
>> You'll have to click through a couple of pages to get the whole thing
>> but it is very interesting.
>
> So the truly smart thing is to order the box with NO memory. If this
> can be done online, the zforce stills gets the online discount deal.
>
> Then order a 512 stick from Crucial - 184 pin 333. A low CL # is
> better than a high one, but I have no idea why. Put it in the slot
> closest to the back of the box. Dell has a page describing the process
> - very minor surgery.
>
> Night, your article was enough to make me pull those two extra 128s
> from my box (I added 2 - 512s to my Dell unit).
>
> Zforce, if you are in the San Francisco area, I'll sell my 2-128s to
> you for $40 total. They are about 3 months old. The are 400 mhz, but
> underclocking won't hurt.
>
> Roy - Carpe Noctem

I think Dell sells single sticks...though crucial and corsair memory
is really good, I doubt Dell would skimp big on something like this. A
low CL number isn't that big a deal for a Dell...it starts to become a
big deal when you build one of those monsters that you want to push to
its limits.
I actually had a 256 stick in my box at one point...went to 768, and
then 1280, but it would not run stable with that extra 256, so I went
back down to 1024 (2 sticks of 512), and ran fine ever since.

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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:09:17 -0800, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
dot com> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:21:47 -0800, "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail
>> dot com> wrote:

>> So the truly smart thing is to order the box with NO memory. If this
>> can be done online, the zforce stills gets the online discount deal.
>>
>> Then order a 512 stick from Crucial - 184 pin 333. A low CL # is
>> better than a high one, but I have no idea why. Put it in the slot
>> closest to the back of the box. Dell has a page describing the process
>> - very minor surgery.
>>
>> Night, your article was enough to make me pull those two extra 128s
>> from my box (I added 2 - 512s to my Dell unit).
>>
>> Zforce, if you are in the San Francisco area, I'll sell my 2-128s to
>> you for $40 total. They are about 3 months old. The are 400 mhz, but
>> underclocking won't hurt.

> I think Dell sells single sticks...though crucial and corsair memory
>is really good, I doubt Dell would skimp big on something like this. A
>low CL number isn't that big a deal for a Dell...it starts to become a
>big deal when you build one of those monsters that you want to push to
>its limits.
> I actually had a 256 stick in my box at one point...went to 768, and
>then 1280, but it would not run stable with that extra 256, so I went
>back down to 1024 (2 sticks of 512), and ran fine ever since.

Dell's website says that our intrepid buyer could save $70 by getting
his box with only 128mb. So then he could order a single 512 stick for
about $90 elsewhere, and turn the 128 into a cheese cutter.

I take a very personal interest in this case, as I now have a matched
pair of cheese cutters.

Roy - Carpe Noctem

"Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in
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> Actually I would be interested in knowing how the video RAM affects
> applications such as Photoshop, as I am not sure either. You definately
>

I can't see this mattering at all to Photoshop. Photoshop (as far as I
know) doesn't use the 2d/3d hardware for processing images, it only uses
the CPU (which only uses the RAM). Otherwise, I can't imagine those high
end graphics design people with their dual P3s with 2 gigs of RAM using a
Matrox G400 graphics card if it would slow their work down any.

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DeMoN LaG wrote:
> "Night_Seer" <ecamacho4 at hotmail dot com> wrote in
> news:YaqdnVYoBaTWZwOiRVn-:
>
>> Actually I would be interested in knowing how the video RAM affects
>> applications such as Photoshop, as I am not sure either. You
>> definately
>>
>
> I can't see this mattering at all to Photoshop. Photoshop (as far as
> I know) doesn't use the 2d/3d hardware for processing images, it only
> uses the CPU (which only uses the RAM). Otherwise, I can't imagine
> those high end graphics design people with their dual P3s with 2 gigs
> of RAM using a Matrox G400 graphics card if it would slow their work
> down any.

Yeah, that's what I thought...thanks.

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