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Hello.

I just wondered if there is a cost effective way to use your mobile
phone to connect a handheld computer, palmtop, notebook, laptop, even
regular PC to access the internet?

The reason I ask is I recently tried using my mobile phone when I was
waiting to get a new phone line. I used it for about half an hour to
surf the web using my home PC. When I got the bill I was stung for
around £22.

I know that the way it works is it charges based on KBs downloaded. I
knew it might be a tad expensive but didn't expect it to be quite as
high.

Can you not just set it to phone a different "freephone" number, or
even local rate number? Or will it always charge you by KB for Data
Calls whether you use your mobile company or not?

I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
on and the service. I feel that the high cost of data calls may be a
problem for all mobile networks though.

Anyway thanks for any info on this one.

John

"John" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello.
>
> I just wondered if there is a cost effective way to use your mobile
> phone to connect a handheld computer, palmtop, notebook, laptop, even
> regular PC to access the internet?
>
> The reason I ask is I recently tried using my mobile phone when I was
> waiting to get a new phone line. I used it for about half an hour to
> surf the web using my home PC. When I got the bill I was stung for
> around £22.
>
> I know that the way it works is it charges based on KBs downloaded. I
> knew it might be a tad expensive but didn't expect it to be quite as
> high.

I think your confused - basically GPRS is indeed chared by KB and you have
no control over who provides this, tmobile is the worst I belive but they
are all too much.

The other option, much slower but depending on what the number is it can be
included, is dial up at a blistering 9.6k (i.e. very slow) - its still
something though and ok if you have loads of inclusive mins in your tariff
plan to use up.

>
> Can you not just set it to phone a different "freephone" number, or
> even local rate number? Or will it always charge you by KB for Data
> Calls whether you use your mobile company or not?

See above but remember that there is no freephone on mobile phones except
orange; they will almost certainly bar any number such as this or more
likley you won't be able to use it if your now on bt (Fricao 0808 numbers);
even if they don't you would have to be on an orange contract not including
ovp virgin

>
> I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
> on and the service. I feel that the high cost of data calls may be a
> problem for all mobile networks though.

It is, a fixed connection or lan connection is your best bet. Second best is
wireless hotspot but even the comercial ones of these are very expensive to
use.

Sam
>
> Anyway thanks for any info on this one.
>
> John
>
>


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 03:41:26 +0100, John <>
wrote:

>I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
>on and the service.

In that case, switch to something like freetime 750 and instead of
using the expensive GPRS, use the a 9.6k dial up connection to connect
to an ISP with a real geographic number (not 0808, 0845 or whatever).
ClaraNet, for example.

Then calls after 6pm will come out of inclusive minutes.
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"John" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello.
>
> I just wondered if there is a cost effective way to use your mobile
> phone to connect a handheld computer, palmtop, notebook, laptop, even
> regular PC to access the internet?
>
> The reason I ask is I recently tried using my mobile phone when I was
> waiting to get a new phone line. I used it for about half an hour to
> surf the web using my home PC. When I got the bill I was stung for
> around £22.
>
> I know that the way it works is it charges based on KBs downloaded. I
> knew it might be a tad expensive but didn't expect it to be quite as
> high.
>
> Can you not just set it to phone a different "freephone" number, or
> even local rate number? Or will it always charge you by KB for Data
> Calls whether you use your mobile company or not?
>
> I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
> on and the service. I feel that the high cost of data calls may be a
> problem for all mobile networks though.
>
> Anyway thanks for any info on this one.
>
> John
>
>

I use my mobile as a dial-up modem. Speed is not great (9.6k) but it works
out ok for checking/replying to email as it comes from my inclusive minutes.

simon

"John" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello.
>
> I just wondered if there is a cost effective way to use your mobile
> phone to connect a handheld computer, palmtop, notebook, laptop, even
> regular PC to access the Internet?
>
> The reason I ask is I recently tried using my mobile phone when I was
> waiting to get a new phone line. I used it for about half an hour to
> surf the web using my home PC. When I got the bill I was stung for
> around £22.
>
> I know that the way it works is it charges based on KBs downloaded. I
> knew it might be a tad expensive but didn't expect it to be quite as
> high.
>
> Can you not just set it to phone a different "freephone" number, or
> even local rate number? Or will it always charge you by KB for Data
> Calls whether you use your mobile company or not?
>
> I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
> on and the service. I feel that the high cost of data calls may be a
> problem for all mobile networks though.
>
> Anyway thanks for any info on this one.
>
> John
>
Vodafone has two new GPRS data cards - under the banner of Vodafone Mobile
Connect. They provide quick and easy Internet access for all types of users.

Both Mobile Connect Cards are easily installed into a laptop PC and are
pre-configured for use with the Vodafone GPRS network. The only other
requirement is a GPRS-enabled SIM card.

For light or medium usage - up to 15MB of data sent and received each month has
a monthly cost of £5.00 excl. VAT, with data usage charged at £2.00 excl. VAT
per MB. For heavier users, £45.00 for 150 MB with data usage charged at £1.00
per MB.

Also, Orange is upgrading its network to operate at up to 28,000 bps by
stripping out a lot of the error correction using a technique known as High
Speed Circuit Switched Data (HSCSD).

LarryLamb reckoned that:
> Also, Orange is upgrading its network to operate at up to 28,000 bps by
> stripping out a lot of the error correction using a technique known as High
> Speed Circuit Switched Data (HSCSD).

'Is upgrading'? This happened about 4 years ago!
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:08:07 GMT, "LarryLamb"
<> wrote:

>
>Also, Orange is upgrading its network to operate at up to 28,000 bps by
>stripping out a lot of the error correction using a technique known as High
>Speed Circuit Switched Data (HSCSD).

Your post seems to have taken several years to reach me.

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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:03:13 +0100, "simplesimon"
<> wrote:

>
>"John" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> Hello.
>>
>> I just wondered if there is a cost effective way to use your mobile
>> phone to connect a handheld computer, palmtop, notebook, laptop, even
>> regular PC to access the internet?
>>
>> The reason I ask is I recently tried using my mobile phone when I was
>> waiting to get a new phone line. I used it for about half an hour to
>> surf the web using my home PC. When I got the bill I was stung for
>> around £22.
>>
>> I know that the way it works is it charges based on KBs downloaded. I
>> knew it might be a tad expensive but didn't expect it to be quite as
>> high.
>>
>> Can you not just set it to phone a different "freephone" number, or
>> even local rate number? Or will it always charge you by KB for Data
>> Calls whether you use your mobile company or not?
>>
>> I'm with T-Mobile here in the UK and am very happy with the plan I'm
>> on and the service. I feel that the high cost of data calls may be a
>> problem for all mobile networks though.
>>
>> Anyway thanks for any info on this one.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>
>I use my mobile as a dial-up modem. Speed is not great (9.6k) but it works
>out ok for checking/replying to email as it comes from my inclusive minutes.
>
>simon


Hello.

How do you use the 9.6K modem part? When I use it on a regular
computer it just seems to come up and surf with GPRS.

I'm not on one of those evenings and weekend contracts where you get
lots of minutes. I just went for an everyone plan with less free
minutes but lower costs during the daytime, because I make quite a few
calls in the day. I wouldn't be using the 9.6K part that much,
probably just for occasional email downloads now and again as well.

I would never use Vodafone or switch to them, heck, I don't even call
anyone who uses them. They are Man U sponsors as well as Ferrari.

John

Does anyone know what tariff's on T-Mobile include fax/data calls in
the free inclusive minutes, even the old one2one tariff's?


Thanks,

Danny.

Dan wrote:
> Does anyone know what tariff's on T-Mobile include fax/data calls in
> the free inclusive minutes, even the old one2one tariff's?

Freetime 750 has data calls to T-Mobile and geographical included.