Spying ISP

My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
activity?

Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.

This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
spying on me?

Thank you for your help.

KH

KH

"KH" <> wrote in news:1130881280.647255.90690
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
> activity?
>
> Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
> Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
> service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
> owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
> knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
> provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
> very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.
>
> This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
> emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
> spying on me?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> KH
>
>


Yes, he can read your emails (unless they are encrypted) and, yes, he can
see what you do on the internet (unless you tunnel out encrypted to a proxy
server). However, there is no way of truly knowing whether he does actually
spy, log your activities, etc.

To avoid him knowing everything you do the two main ingredients are
encryption and a remote proxy server. Some commercial servers (like cotse
or findnot) will provide support for most protocols (email, surfing, etc.)
or you can use free services like mixmaster and Tor.

Even if you take these precautions he will still be able to track some
things (such as when you are online) but he will have no ability to know
the *contents* of your internet activities.

Regards,

nemo_outis

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In alt.computer.security, KH dared to utter,
> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
> activity?

Without a doubt: yes. Unless you're doing something extra, your e-mail
is 100% plain text. Anyone that intercepts it along the way can read
it, and by definition your ISP is going to intercept it. As for web
pages, anything that isn't SSL encrypted is just as clear to them.

> Also, if I
> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
> spying on me?

No, not really. Depending on what you do, it's possible that you might
be able to detect it, but if you have to ask this question you're
obviously not skilled enough to extract information on his activities.
Even then, nothing is 100% garaunteed to work.

Of course, there are ways to encrypt your traffic so he can't make
sense of any of it, but really no way to prevent hiim from intercepting
any of it.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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On 1 Nov 2005 13:41:20 -0800, "KH" <> wrote:

>My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
>activity?

Yes

>is there a way for me to know for sure if he is spying on me?

No, apart from the knock on the door from the secret police
at 3am

However, if you use encryption, and use another mail server
apart from your ISP's you can make life difficult.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Jim Watt

KH wrote:

> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
> activity?
>
> Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
> Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
> service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
> owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
> knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
> provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
> very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.
>
> This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
> emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
> spying on me?
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> KH


Use a web based email service that uses SSL (https) not only for the login
but also ALL data (ie viewing emails, etc). If you do not know what I mean
reply back and I will explain more.

As far as the web sites, the ISP can trace them (and rather easily). You
will need to use a proxy some where out in the Internet and bounce you web
viewing off of (through) the proxy. Just make sure whatever proxy you use
also uses SSL encryption from start to finish.

Imhotep

Imhotep

"KH" <> wrote in message
news: ups.com...
> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
> activity?
>
> Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
> Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
> service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
> owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
> knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
> provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
> very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.
>
> This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
> emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
> spying on me?

This one comes up a lot (although not necessarily on this particular group).

Basically, an email is the equivalent of a postcard - everyone between you
and the recipient can take a look, if they so wish.

To secure it, send a letter (i.e. wrap it in an envelope that makes it hard
to see in. Some envelopes [encryption levels] are harder to get through than
others.

Because this sort of thing is entirely non-intrusive, the only way for you
to know that your stuff it being read is for the other party to make a
stupid mistake.

--

Hairy One Kenobi

Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!

Hairy One Kenobi

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:02:59 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi"
<abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>"KH" <> wrote in message
>news: oups.com...
>> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
>> activity?
>>
>> Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
>> Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
>> service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
>> owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
>> knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
>> provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
>> very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.
>>
>> This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
>> emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
>> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
>> spying on me?
>
>This one comes up a lot (although not necessarily on this particular group).
>
>Basically, an email is the equivalent of a postcard - everyone between you
>and the recipient can take a look, if they so wish.
>
>To secure it, send a letter (i.e. wrap it in an envelope that makes it hard
>to see in. Some envelopes [encryption levels] are harder to get through than
>others.
>
>Because this sort of thing is entirely non-intrusive, the only way for you
>to know that your stuff it being read is for the other party to make a
>stupid mistake.

Your ISP can see wherever you go on the net, and read all your e-mail,
if you can afford it you can use a privacy service to conceal your web
surfing, www.privacy.li and www.findnot.com are excellent for this,
I've used both and am using one now. If you can't afford the $ try
www.hushmail.com for your e-mail, it has a free option but you have to
access your account every three weeks to keep it active.

You can try going to http://www.space.net.au/~thomas/quickbrowse.html
and using one of the free proxy's, on a basic level, your ISP
shouldn't be able to log you, but only on a basic level, the free
proxy's have allot of downtime.

I hope you find the info useful, regards

traveler

"traveler" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:02:59 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi"
> <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> >"KH" <> wrote in message
> >news: oups.com...
> >> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
> >> activity?

<snip>

> >Basically, an email is the equivalent of a postcard - everyone between
you
> >and the recipient can take a look, if they so wish.
> >
> >To secure it, send a letter (i.e. wrap it in an envelope that makes it
hard
> >to see in. Some envelopes [encryption levels] are harder to get through
than
> >others.
> >
> >Because this sort of thing is entirely non-intrusive, the only way for
you
> >to know that your stuff it being read is for the other party to make a
> >stupid mistake.
>
> Your ISP can see wherever you go on the net, and read all your e-mail,
> if you can afford it you can use a privacy service to conceal your web
> surfing, www.privacy.li and www.findnot.com are excellent for this,
> I've used both and am using one now. If you can't afford the $ try
> www.hushmail.com for your e-mail, it has a free option but you have to
> access your account every three weeks to keep it active.
>
> You can try going to http://www.space.net.au/~thomas/quickbrowse.html
> and using one of the free proxy's, on a basic level, your ISP
> shouldn't be able to log you, but only on a basic level, the free
> proxy's have allot of downtime.

Erm, nope - not quite.

Your ISP can monitor all of you traffic, as can any other ISP between you
and your destination. They can also monitor their own servers, as can anyone
else (e.g. a privacy service)

All you can ultimately do is form an encrypted tunnel from where you are to
somewhere you believe you can trust. That trusted third party then works
entirely openly on your behalf. If you don't use your ISP for email, and
encrypt access to the server that you /do/ use, then all they see is an
encrypted datastream.

Nothing magic about it.

H1K

Hairy One Kenobi

traveler wrote:

> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:02:59 GMT, "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]>
> wrote:
>
>>"KH" <> wrote in message
>>news: roups.com...
>>> My main question is- can my ISP intercept my emails and view my web
>>> activity?
>>>
>>> Why do I have this question? Basically, I live in an area in the
>>> Balkans where the main religion is not one to which I adhere. The
>>> service provider for the village in wich I live is very small and is
>>> owned by a person who is a "leader" in this area for this religion. He
>>> knows that I do not believe what he does. He is the only service
>>> provider for my village and I don't trust him. His operation isn't
>>> very big and I will not put it past him to snoop into my business.
>>>
>>> This is why I would like to know if it possible for him to read my
>>> emails, follow my comings and goings on the internet, etc. Also, if I
>>> do go with his service, is there a way for me to know for sure if he is
>>> spying on me?
>>
>>This one comes up a lot (although not necessarily on this particular
>>group).
>>
>>Basically, an email is the equivalent of a postcard - everyone between
>>you and the recipient can take a look, if they so wish.
>>
>>To secure it, send a letter (i.e. wrap it in an envelope that makes it
>>hard to see in. Some envelopes [encryption levels] are harder to get
>>through than others.
>>
>>Because this sort of thing is entirely non-intrusive, the only way for
>>you to know that your stuff it being read is for the other party to make
>>a stupid mistake.
>
> Your ISP can see wherever you go on the net, and read all your e-mail, if
> you can afford it you can use a privacy service to conceal your web
> surfing, www.privacy.li and www.findnot.com are excellent for this, I've

Findnot lies about where its servers are located, and privacy.li is a
gang of pathological liars and stone cold crooks. Here's a good place
for anyone who wants the dope on this scam service to begin.

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archive...ghouse_pr.html

Go away you sapmming little troll. You're no more welcome here than you
are anywhere else.

> used both and am using one now. If you can't afford the $ try
> www.hushmail.com for your e-mail, it has a free option but you have to
> access your account every three weeks to keep it active.
>
> You can try going to http://www.space.net.au/~thomas/quickbrowse.html and
> using one of the free proxy's, on a basic level, your ISP shouldn't be
> able to log you, but only on a basic level, the free proxy's have allot
> of downtime.
>
> I hope you find the info useful, regards


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"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
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> Your ISP can monitor all of you traffic, as can any other ISP between
> you and your destination. They can also monitor their own servers, as
> can anyone else (e.g. a privacy service)
>
> All you can ultimately do is form an encrypted tunnel


Can you give any direction to a newbie on the easiest way to set up an
encryption tunnel? (Principally for using Xnews newsreader).

Tom Jennings