Identity Theft Protection (a method)

Hi,

There is no doubt that key loggers (capture your keystrokes) in spyware is
part of the massive identity theft problem. Some key loggers can send a file
that contains what you typed over the internet without your knowledge.

Many of us like to keep personal information, which includes bank
accounts, etc. in some form on our computers. Although it may be encrypted
for security, the problem is when you type an account number, password, etc.

Well for me, I don't worry about any spyware since I can use Dos mode
(not Dos "prompt") . There are tons of Dos based software, such as editors,
etc. available from such sources as www.simtel.net. Note: I use a Dos
based editor and keep my personal information on a floppy disk.

I have Windows 98 computers. Unfortunately, you can't do this with XP.

I edited "MSDOS.SYS". It is a hidden, read only, system file located at
the root directory (C:\). At the Dos "prompt". I used this command at the
root directory:

"ATTRIB -H -R -S MSDOS.SYS" to allow access to that file.

Since "MSDOS.SYS" is a text file, I used a text editor and changed
"BootGUI = 1" to "BootGUI = 0".

Afterwards, I restored the attributes:

"ATTRIB +H +R +S MSDOS.SYS".

From now on, my computer boots into Dos mode (Windows isn't launched yet)
where there is no chance of launching a key logger. Now I can edit my
personal file in complete safety. When I am finished, I simply type "WIN"
(and press Enter) to launch Windows.

Brad

Brad

"Brad" <> wrote in message
news:...
<snip>
> From now on, my computer boots into Dos mode (Windows isn't launched
> yet)
> where there is no chance of launching a key logger.

Unless, of course, the keylogger is a DOS virus, boot sector virus, or
root kit that replaced or modified your DOS kernel and/or command
interpreter. Or it is a hardware keylogger (dongle) attached to your
keyboard (inline with the cable or a modified motherboard) that couldn't
give a gnat's fart about which OS you load. Or the keylogger is a
traffic monitor (packet sniffer) upstream of your host that couldn't
care less about what you hit on the keyboard since it really just wants
the data in your unencrypted traffic. Or, like the CIA, uses the
differing EMF produced by the different keys on your keyboard to tell
which one and in which order you hit them (and you don't even have to be
sitting near a window anymore).

Vanguard

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:11:21 -0500, "Vanguard"
<> wrote:

>"Brad" <> wrote in message
>news:...
><snip>
>> From now on, my computer boots into Dos mode (Windows isn't launched
>> yet)
>> where there is no chance of launching a key logger.
>
>Unless, of course, the keylogger is a DOS virus, boot sector virus, or
>root kit that replaced or modified your DOS kernel and/or command
>interpreter. Or it is a hardware keylogger (dongle) attached to your
>keyboard (inline with the cable or a modified motherboard) that couldn't
>give a gnat's fart about which OS you load. Or the keylogger is a
>traffic monitor (packet sniffer) upstream of your host that couldn't
>care less about what you hit on the keyboard since it really just wants
>the data in your unencrypted traffic. Or, like the CIA, uses the
>differing EMF produced by the different keys on your keyboard to tell
>which one and in which order you hit them (and you don't even have to be
>sitting near a window anymore).
>

Does anyone know where an individual could purchase one of the CIA
style EMF keystroke loggers?

It seems that the hardware dongle on the keyboard cable is too
obviously succeptable to detection if the targeted individual is
really looking for it. (example: clever teenagers)

Also, it is not always easy to install a keystroke logger program if
the computer is physically secured from outsiders or there is
extensive password protection on the bootup cycle.

Beachcomber

Beachcomber

Beachcomber wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:11:21 -0500, "Vanguard"
> <> wrote:
>
> >"Brad" <> wrote in message
> >news:...
> ><snip>
> >> From now on, my computer boots into Dos mode (Windows isn't launched
> >> yet)
> >> where there is no chance of launching a key logger.
> >
> >Unless, of course, the keylogger is a DOS virus, boot sector virus, or
> >root kit that replaced or modified your DOS kernel and/or command
> >interpreter. Or it is a hardware keylogger (dongle) attached to your
> >keyboard (inline with the cable or a modified motherboard) that couldn't
> >give a gnat's fart about which OS you load. Or the keylogger is a
> >traffic monitor (packet sniffer) upstream of your host that couldn't
> >care less about what you hit on the keyboard since it really just wants
> >the data in your unencrypted traffic. Or, like the CIA, uses the
> >differing EMF produced by the different keys on your keyboard to tell
> >which one and in which order you hit them (and you don't even have to be
> >sitting near a window anymore).
> >
>
> Does anyone know where an individual could purchase one of the CIA
> style EMF keystroke loggers?
>
> It seems that the hardware dongle on the keyboard cable is too
> obviously succeptable to detection if the targeted individual is
> really looking for it. (example: clever teenagers)
>
> Also, it is not always easy to install a keystroke logger program if
> the computer is physically secured from outsiders or there is
> extensive password protection on the bootup cycle.

Who are you trying to steal keystrokes from?

Notan

Notan

>>
>> Does anyone know where an individual could purchase one of the CIA
>> style EMF keystroke loggers?
>>
>> It seems that the hardware dongle on the keyboard cable is too
>> obviously succeptable to detection if the targeted individual is
>> really looking for it. (example: clever teenagers)
>>
>> Also, it is not always easy to install a keystroke logger program if
>> the computer is physically secured from outsiders or there is
>> extensive password protection on the bootup cycle.
>
>Who are you trying to steal keystrokes from?
>
>Notan

Client has a spouse who is suspected of cheating on them. I'm just
the investigator and consultant.

Beachcomber

Beachcomber

(Beachcomber) writes:

>On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:11:21 -0500, "Vanguard"
><> wrote:

>>"Brad" <> wrote in message
>>news:...
>><snip>
>>> From now on, my computer boots into Dos mode (Windows isn't launched
>>> yet)
>>> where there is no chance of launching a key logger.
>>
>>Unless, of course, the keylogger is a DOS virus, boot sector virus, or
>>root kit that replaced or modified your DOS kernel and/or command
>>interpreter. Or it is a hardware keylogger (dongle) attached to your
>>keyboard (inline with the cable or a modified motherboard) that couldn't
>>give a gnat's fart about which OS you load. Or the keylogger is a
>>traffic monitor (packet sniffer) upstream of your host that couldn't
>>care less about what you hit on the keyboard since it really just wants
>>the data in your unencrypted traffic. Or, like the CIA, uses the
>>differing EMF produced by the different keys on your keyboard to tell
>>which one and in which order you hit them (and you don't even have to be
>>sitting near a window anymore).
>>

>Does anyone know where an individual could purchase one of the CIA
>style EMF keystroke loggers?

Call the cia and ask them



>It seems that the hardware dongle on the keyboard cable is too
>obviously succeptable to detection if the targeted individual is
>really looking for it. (example: clever teenagers)

You would put it into the keyboard. Very few people, especially teenagers,
take apart their keyboard to look inside.



>Also, it is not always easy to install a keystroke logger program if
>the computer is physically secured from outsiders or there is
>extensive password protection on the bootup cycle.

Who said easy? And who does extensive password protection on the bootup
cycle? The OP said he was running windows most of the time, and has that
computer on the net. It is trivial to break into and then trivial to go to
any part of the disk to install whatever is wanted into the dos partition.
Ie, his computer is NOT secure from outsiders, by admission.



>Beachcomber

Unruh