Remote storage

Does anybody know of a remote storage service like xdrive.com for
example, but cheaper (I don't need gigabytes of storage for now)? Either
as a remote drive or FTP.

Alternatively, I would like a servre like that at home, but as a trimmed
computer (a small box that uses very little power); but it mustn't be
limited to LAN and must be secure (will be used through the internet).
Is there such a thing?

Thank you

Tom

Tomaz Cedilnik

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:58:39 GMT, Tomaz Cedilnik
<> wrote:

>Does anybody know of a remote storage service like xdrive.com for
>example, but cheaper (I don't need gigabytes of storage for now)? Either
>as a remote drive or FTP.
>
>Alternatively, I would like a servre like that at home, but as a trimmed
>computer (a small box that uses very little power); but it mustn't be
>limited to LAN and must be secure (will be used through the internet).
>Is there such a thing?
>
>Thank you
>
>Tom
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www.serverbeach.com answers the first part of you question.

I don't know about the second part.
donnie.

Tomaz Cedilnik wrote:
> Does anybody know of a remote storage service like xdrive.com for
> example, but cheaper (I don't need gigabytes of storage for now)? Either
> as a remote drive or FTP.
>
> Alternatively, I would like a servre like that at home, but as a trimmed
> computer (a small box that uses very little power); but it mustn't be
> limited to LAN and must be secure (will be used through the internet).
> Is there such a thing?
>
> Thank you
>
> Tom
There are some pretty cheap alternatives. External USB drives +200 GB
range are running around 150$ USD There are 1 TB solutions less than
$1000, and Tape is still an option, though For me in the home network
scenario the USB drive shared works very well. You can use encryption
and compression to further enhance the security on this solution. While
I have an old DAT tape backup, I have found the external drive solution
is fast and easy.

I don't use an online solutions, though I know several services allow 1
GB storage where one could achieve with data snips less than 10MB
segments via e-mail mechanisms if one were creative. My home pipes just
don't support net storage solutions well.

Every requirement is different. I find I can rebuild fairly quickly
using a 200 GB external drive (at home) and compressed ghost images.
These work very well for VM storage as well. Digital photo files and
such are still going either to DAT or to DVD-RW drive as I am finding
video editing and still pics eat drives for lunch. The DVD-RWs work
fairly well for most video projects.

Winged

In article <d3fhs7$>, winged wrote:

>I don't use an online solutions, though I know several services allow 1
>GB storage where one could achieve with data snips less than 10MB
>segments via e-mail mechanisms if one were creative. My home pipes just
>don't support net storage solutions well.

Catastrophic storage (fire, earthquake, flood) means the backups are
off-site in a different environment. For ordinary backups (magic smoke
escaping, power glitches causing data errors, cosmic rays, etc.), having
a home network and backing stuff up to different systems makes a lot of
sense. We have nightly network backups to alternating systems with large
disks. A checksum comparison of files and directories provides enough
confidence that the backups ran correctly. The only other thing to check
is that you can use the backups to actually restore. A lot of people
seem to forget that. The actual backup only takes a few minutes over a
100MB network. It's a heck of a lot faster than backups to tape.

>Digital photo files and such are still going either to DAT or to DVD-RW
>drive as I am finding video editing and still pics eat drives for lunch.
>The DVD-RWs work fairly well for most video projects.

Yeah, it's amazing how much storage is needed. Ten years ago, someone
needing a 2 Gig tape for home was "strange". The latest computer I
bought for home has a Gig of RAM, and a 250 Gig drive. That means I've
got to buy a couple more drives for the backup servers.... sigh

Old guy

Moe Trin wrote:
> In article <d3fhs7$>, winged wrote:
>
>
>>I don't use an online solutions, though I know several services allow 1
>>GB storage where one could achieve with data snips less than 10MB
>>segments via e-mail mechanisms if one were creative. My home pipes just
>>don't support net storage solutions well.
>
>
> Catastrophic storage (fire, earthquake, flood) means the backups are
> off-site in a different environment. For ordinary backups (magic smoke
> escaping, power glitches causing data errors, cosmic rays, etc.), having
> a home network and backing stuff up to different systems makes a lot of
> sense. We have nightly network backups to alternating systems with large
> disks. A checksum comparison of files and directories provides enough
> confidence that the backups ran correctly. The only other thing to check
> is that you can use the backups to actually restore. A lot of people
> seem to forget that. The actual backup only takes a few minutes over a
> 100MB network. It's a heck of a lot faster than backups to tape.
>
>
>>Digital photo files and such are still going either to DAT or to DVD-RW
>>drive as I am finding video editing and still pics eat drives for lunch.
>>The DVD-RWs work fairly well for most video projects.
>
>
> Yeah, it's amazing how much storage is needed. Ten years ago, someone
> needing a 2 Gig tape for home was "strange". The latest computer I
> bought for home has a Gig of RAM, and a 250 Gig drive. That means I've
> got to buy a couple more drives for the backup servers.... sigh
>
> Old guy
>
No argument. I use a file server box (old PC) with several big drives
to store disk images and other crud I accumulate. In the home environs
I still use tape why because I got a fire sale on media and drives.
Seems they were being trashed for newer bigger better, Long story short
yes they are slow, but my system is patient. I have had incidence to
restore from tape because I was sloppy taking care of my CD..scratched.
But you are right, days of 4mm tape is about over. While I could, as
a last resort restore completely from tape, I sure wouldn't want to.
But I can still locate Dos 1.0, Gem and a whole batch of old stuff that
I'll never need again. Anyone in the market for a working CP/M system?

Winged

Winged

Tomaz Cedilnik wrote:
> Does anybody know of a remote storage service like xdrive.com for
> example, but cheaper (I don't need gigabytes of storage for now)? Either
> as a remote drive or FTP.
>
> Alternatively, I would like a servre like that at home, but as a trimmed
> computer (a small box that uses very little power); but it mustn't be
> limited to LAN and must be secure (will be used through the internet).
> Is there such a thing?

1] If might be worth checking out this
http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm. It allows use gmail as a drive
mount on Windows.

2] The answer to your second question is that the device doesn't exist,
you cannot serve over the internet and make it secure.

Ash.

winged wrote:
But I
> can still locate Dos 1.0, Gem and a whole batch of old stuff that I'll
> never need again. Anyone in the market for a working CP/M system?

hahaha I've got one of them, trouble is it's on two 5 1/4" floppys. I
should seriously have a clear out, I'll never use any of it I don't
even have the drives to take it. Why do I still hold onto it?

>
> Winged
>
> Winged

In article <d3i55b$>, winged wrote:

>No argument. I use a file server box (old PC) with several big drives
>to store disk images and other crud I accumulate.

Just be cautious of 'single point of failure' conditions - like when the
controller decides to encipher the data using a Brownian Noise one time
pad.

>In the home environs I still use tape why because I got a fire sale on
>media and drives. Seems they were being trashed for newer bigger better,
>Long story short yes they are slow, but my system is patient.

Most of my expensive stuff is from disposal too.

>I have had incidence to restore from tape because I was sloppy taking care
>of my CD..scratched.

You're ahead of the game. Most people who make backups would be hard pressed
to figure out how to make a restore (I backed up my DOS boxes religiously
every month - and I don't think I ever even tried a restore over the eight
years that I had a system at home).

>But you are right, days of 4mm tape is about over.

What about my Exabyte 8205? I'm OK on tapes, but last year, I had
to scramble to find cleaning tapes. I finally found a couple of 48 pack
cases which ought to last me until the last two drives crap out.

>While I could, as a last resort restore completely from tape, I sure
>wouldn't want to.

I've done it twice in the past year - turned out to be an intermittent
drive controller. No, it was not fun

>But I can still locate Dos 1.0, Gem and a whole batch of old stuff that
>I'll never need again. Anyone in the market for a working CP/M system?

What about a couple boxes of Dysan 3740/1D diskettes. I know I've got an
eight inch drive around here somewhere. Hmmm, wonder what I can do with
an 'ISIS II v4.1 system disk'?

Old guy

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:49:25 +0000 (UTC), Martin
<> wrote:

>winged wrote:
> But I
>> can still locate Dos 1.0, Gem and a whole batch of old stuff that I'll
>> never need again. Anyone in the market for a working CP/M system?
>
>hahaha I've got one of them, trouble is it's on two 5 1/4" floppys. I
>should seriously have a clear out, I'll never use any of it I don't
>even have the drives to take it. Why do I still hold onto it?


Because when the mutant space aliens destroy civilization as we know
it, we will have to begin anew and then.... THEN... you will be
ADORED!! <vbg>

Seriously, I don't know either<g>

--- unnecessary chatter begins ---
Actually I was after something like 10, maybe 100 megabytes; either
cheap online storage or a boxed low-power filesystem server kept at home
(but realised that the second solution wouldn't be so good as I don't
have a static IP).

Most online storage services offer big and expensive solutions (measured
in gigabytes and from £50/year), but I need a small and cheap solution;
not for personal but for business use.
--- unnecessary chatter ends ---

Anyway, I found biscu.com which seems too good to be true - very
flexible: I type how many megabytes I need (and change it if necessary)
and the cost is proportional to the number I type - so I can go for 10
MB and pay 18 cents for a whole year!

As I said - it sounds too good to be true - does anybody know about
biscu.com? Are they genuine as there are so many rogue companies about?

Thank you

Tom