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Old 03-28-2005, 04:09 PM   #1
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I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.

I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
if so, why?

Many thanks.

Regards,

Chas_G


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Old 03-28-2005, 11:59 PM   #2
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Norton has better technical help, better update and I have found that Norton
has caught viruses that McAfee did not.
However, that said, recently Norton has been giving me problems that I
haven't been able to sort out as of yet.

V.B.

"Chas_G" <chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
> McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>
> I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
> Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
> if so, why?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chas_G





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Old 03-29-2005, 12:11 AM   #3
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:17 +0100, Chas_G
<chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
>McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>
>I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
>Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
>if so, why?
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Regards,
>
>Chas_G

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I will never buy another symantec product again.
donnie.


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Old 03-29-2005, 04:41 AM   #4
winged
 
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Chas_G wrote:
> I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
> McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>
> I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
> Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
> if so, why?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chas_G

I am familiar with both Symantec and McAfee product.

The answer which is "better" is related to your requirements and
specifically which product you refer to.

Symantec A/V with firewall suite (has several product names and whether
you are using the corporate or retail versions). The Symantec Internet
security suite compares to the McAfee Internet suite.

The A/V tools also compare. The Norton suite has a heavier hand on
system resources. It also can monitor and block more vectors. Downside
is more resources (CPU, memory, and disk). If you are on an older
machine that is close to memory/CPU/Disk maximum, Symantec may cause
noticable performance impact. McAfee might be a better choice for
general use. If your machine is less that 1 GHZ CPU or less than 128MB
RAM you may want to opt for McAfee. It may not defend as well but the
system will be happier. McAfee is a competent product.

I utilize Symantec A/V with firewall product(corporate edition). It
suites my needs and requirements well. My preference may be
familiarity, I have found it remarkably stable.

The Symantec products do not uninstall well. If one decides to go with
a different AV product after Symantec, one will want to scour the
registry to rid Symantecs footprints, or rebuild the system.

I do recommend getting the AV product with firewall. The XP SP2
firewall is better than it was preSP2 but still leaves a bit to be
desired on the management side.

Both products firewall work well with the AV product together.

If you have the resources to spare, personally I recommend the Symantec
product. I have the Symantec, McAfee and the MicroTrend product
available to me for free through my workplace. I prefer the Symantec
product, in MS OS's when all things are considered.

I currently use the McAfee product in LINUX, and have had no problem
with it.

Winged





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Old 03-29-2005, 04:42 AM   #5
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donnie wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:17 +0100, Chas_G
> <chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
>>McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>>
>>I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
>>Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
>>if so, why?
>>
>>Many thanks.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Chas_G

>
> ########################
> I will never buy another symantec product again.
> donnie.

Just curious, why?
winged


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Old 03-29-2005, 07:54 AM   #6
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:59:23 -0500, "V.B." <> wrote:

>Norton has better technical help, better update and I have found that Norton
>has caught viruses that McAfee did not.
>However, that said, recently Norton has been giving me problems that I
>haven't been able to sort out as of yet.
>
>V.B.
>
>"Chas_G" <chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
>> McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.


Thank you very much. I have read your responses with great interest.

May I ask finally. Say for example, someone buys NIS, are they
permitted to install the same copy onto two computers or do they have
to pay a further fee for the second computer? Can they update daily
with both computers or will one computer LiveUp be blocked if a
further fee is not paid or a second copy not bought?

Many thanks.

Regards,

Chas_G


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Old 03-29-2005, 08:13 AM   #7
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Chas_G wrote:

> May I ask finally. Say for example, someone buys NIS, are they
> permitted to install the same copy onto two computers or do they have
> to pay a further fee for the second computer? Can they update daily
> with both computers or will one computer LiveUp be blocked if a
> further fee is not paid or a second copy not bought?


I use NIS 2005 and I'm quite happy with it. I have it installed on two
machines, with no issues whatsoever with updates and such. I have even
installed it multiple times (each machine has been reformatted once)
without any indication from Symantec that this was a problem. Both copies
reactivated and installed all updates without a hitch.

I have only good things to say about Symantec. The product has always
worked flawlessly on both machines. My wife and I both work from home and
during major virus outbreaks we receive anywhere from 1 - 50 infected
emails a day; yet neither machine has ever been compromised. So in *my*
experience, the virus detection is adequate.

I can't comment on McAfee, I've never used it.

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Old 03-29-2005, 12:41 PM   #8
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Chas_G <chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
news::

> I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
> McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>
> I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
> Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
> if so, why?
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chas_G


Hi. I believe that Norton is better and more stable than McAfee. But seems
like Symantec may have dropped the ball on their flagship AV product. Many
complaints circling the web about NAV & SAV. And people like TrendMicro and
F-Secure are out pacing them in the AV market.

But as with most things. You should try them for yourself and judge.

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Old 03-30-2005, 01:37 AM   #9
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On 28 Mar 2005 22:42:10 EST, winged <> wrote:

>donnie wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:17 +0100, Chas_G
>> <chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
>>>McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>>>
>>>I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
>>>Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
>>>if so, why?
>>>
>>>Many thanks.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Chas_G

>>
>> ########################
>> I will never buy another symantec product again.
>> donnie.

>Just curious, why?
>winged

#######################
I have seen symantec products conflict w/ a lot of things over the
last 10 years. The most recent being Norton was stopping a friend of
mine from saving a Word Doc.
donnie


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Old 03-30-2005, 02:56 AM   #10
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donnie wrote:
> On 28 Mar 2005 22:42:10 EST, winged <> wrote:
>
>
>>donnie wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 16:09:17 +0100, Chas_G
>>><chasg@DELETE_THIS.elmstead.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I wonder if anyone in the group with knowledge of both Norton and
>>>>McAfee firewall/antivirus could help.
>>>>
>>>>I wish to install either 'Norton Internet Security' or 'McAfee
>>>>Internet Security' onto a computer. Is one better than the other, and
>>>>if so, why?
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Chas_G
>>>
>>>########################
>>>I will never buy another symantec product again.
>>>donnie.

>>
>>Just curious, why?
>>winged

>
> #######################
> I have seen symantec products conflict w/ a lot of things over the
> last 10 years. The most recent being Norton was stopping a friend of
> mine from saving a Word Doc.
> donnie


Was it stopping the document save due to a Word macro virus? I have
used word from its earliest roots (and Norton a/v) and never ran into
Symantec or Word refusing to save even a virus file. I intentionally
save viruses for reference, bit inverted obviously, but saved for
examination.

Yes, through the years Norton/Symantec have had various hiccups, though
if one looks at the AV community issues are not unique to Symantec.
There have been some issues with MicroTrend and McAfee recently. It is
not a simple business.

My most disturbing issue with Symantec is the inability to remove the
product from the system completely without manual editing of the
registry. With almost all COTS systems being sold having the product
not only preinstalled but on the system rebuild images, I find it
irritating. When one runs uninstall, it "should" completely uninstall.
But many vendors tend to leave crap in the registry on uninstall,
problem is not unique to Symantec, who notices right? But the problem
with AV products doing this is it can make other competing product
installs flaky, sometimes even causes problems when upgrading with newer
Symantec product.

That said, while all products have had issues, Norton has got very good
at their business. I manage a number of class C networks with it running
client side and have found overall, the product remarkably stable.

I can understand your frustration, but I suspect I could give similar
examples to the other AV products on the market. I have had excellent
support from Symantec, which is more than I have received from other
vendors.


On a side note:

I did find the information someone posted her on firewall leak testing
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html interesting however some of
the leak testing done were not related to software firewalls but general
system security. If one allows nasty code inside their system, all
bets are off for what might be leaked passed the firewall. I don't care
what kind of firewall one has. But some of the source code on the site
is worth considering when securing a system.

Winged


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