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It's MS Patch time again (8 Highly Critical Patches, Linux anyone?)

 
 
Michael J. Pelletier
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      02-11-2005
Joachim Schipper wrote:

> Michael J. Pelletier <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Joachim Schipper wrote:

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>>> As much as I support Linux, though, there have been quite a few kernel
>>> problems lately (cf. the author of GrSecurity posting six - I believe -
>>> vulnerabilities to Bugtraq when the kernel guys didn't fix them in time;
>>> the kernel maintainers have now created a special patch branch,
>>> 2.6.10-as2. Applying the patches in there really isn't optional).
>>>
>>> Microsoft has a long-standing history of producing bad security, but
>>> this time round, Linux hasn't performed much better. (Of course, this is
>>> mitigated by the fact that a Linux kernel need not include all
>>> vulnerable parts - for example, I don't need IGMP, 64-bit support or
>>> SMP; solves a lot of bugs...)
>>>
>>> Linux' open development model may have allowed for quicker fixes, though
>>> - all my machines were patched within six hours of disclosure. (And this
>>> 'patch pack' fixes problems that had been known for quite a while,
>>> though frankly, the patches have been around, albeit individually, for a
>>> while too).
>>>
>>> Oh well, let's wait for the OpenBSD supporters...
>>>
>>> Joachim

>>
>> Actually I am a FreeBSD dude...

>
> You didn't try to tell anyone to switch to OpenBSD, either...


Well, OpenBSD is probably the most secure OS now. However, I swear by
FreeBSD. Nothing matches the stability of FreeBSD.

> Seriously though, OpenBSD looks great but I'm staying with GNU for now.
> I like their idealism.


FreeBSD is GNU. I think OpenBSD is too.

> (That, and I feel Linux can be very secure if
> properly hardened - why aren't GrSecurity, loop-AES and PaX in mainline?
> All have been around for a long time; loop-AES might be a little
> intrusive, completely replacing the loop drivers, but GrSecurity/PaX
> applies very cleanly and can easily be disabled, if so desired.)
>
> For the record: I administer about six Windows boxes - depending on what
> counts as 'administering' - and two Linux machines. The latter are
> LFS-based, run a couple of services, and have undergone some hardening.
> The former I keep in working condition to allow others to work on them.
> I plan to install at least four more machines, all running Linux, but I
> keep putting it off for lack of time. Most of these machines are either
> the property of family members or my students' association - my own
> machine runs Linux, and Linux only.



Yes, I am also bringing many, many more Linux/*BSD servers into my
corporation. It just makes my job so much easier....

-- Michael

 
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Michael J. Pelletier
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      02-11-2005
Leythos wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:45:18 -0800, Michael J. Pelletier wrote:
>> As far a patches on MS not blowing up a system. How long have you been
>> installing patches? It has happened to everyone! XP SP2 anyone???????????

>
> Sure, lets be honest - We've installed SP2 on more than 1000 systems since
> it came out and have found 2 systems that were problematic - one required
> a BIOS update, one didn't require, but was easier to just wipe/reinstall.
> Sounds like a good track record to me.
>


Many, many people got burn on SP on XP. Mostly due to spyware. In either
case they got burned. Pretty bad track record if you ask me.

GNU is the future --- Get used to it

-- Michael
 
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