Multi spyware

Am a new pc user and want to know if ok to use 2 or more spy programs.
Have Spy Sweeper now and would like to add SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY or
something to find keyloggers or dialers as they look really bad. Have
seen not good to have 2 anti-virus--true ??.

Earl

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 06:48:49 -0800
(Earl) wrote:

> Am a new pc user and want to know if ok to use 2 or more spy programs.
> Have Spy Sweeper now and would like to add SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY or
> something to find keyloggers or dialers as they look really bad. Have
> seen not good to have 2 anti-virus--true ??.
>

It's recommended as good practice to use more than one anti-spyware programs if you are running a Windows operating system. The usual 'best' recommendations are Ad-aware and Spybot S&D.

Robin T Cox

Robin T Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 06:48:49 -0800
> (Earl) wrote:
>
>
>>Am a new pc user and want to know if ok to use 2 or more spy programs.
>>Have Spy Sweeper now and would like to add SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY or
>>something to find keyloggers or dialers as they look really bad. Have
>>seen not good to have 2 anti-virus--true ??.
>>
>
>
> It's recommended as good practice to use more than one anti-spyware programs if you are running a Windows operating system. The usual 'best' recommendations are Ad-aware and Spybot S&D.
>
I personally run AdAware SE, SpySweeper, SpywareBlaster and SpyBot SD.
Yes it is true that it's not a good idea to run more than one antivirus
at once as they'll conflict with each other. This is not so with
anti-spyware.

I generally find that the combination I use is pretty thorough and not
too resource intensive - (won't slow down your pc too much).

Sh4d03

sh4d03

In article <>, sh4d03 wrote:

>Robin T Cox wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 06:48:49 -0800
>> (Earl) wrote:
>>
>>>Am a new pc user and want to know if ok to use 2 or more spy programs.
>>>Have Spy Sweeper now and would like to add SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY or
>>>something to find keyloggers or dialers as they look really bad. Have
>>>seen not good to have 2 anti-virus--true ??.
>>
>>
>> It's recommended as good practice to use more than one anti-spyware programs
>> if you are running a Windows operating system. The usual 'best'
>> recommendations are Ad-aware and Spybot S&D.
>
>I personally run AdAware SE, SpySweeper, SpywareBlaster and SpyBot SD.
>Yes it is true that it's not a good idea to run more than one antivirus
>at once as they'll conflict with each other. This is not so with
>anti-spyware.
>
>I generally find that the combination I use is pretty thorough and not
>too resource intensive - (won't slow down your pc too much).

Why are you installing the spyware in the first place? Maybe if you
stopped clicking 'OK' on everything, and turned off the ActiveX, Java,
and other auto-install options, you wouldn't have this problem.

It just so happens that the most frequently used vector to date is that
of user stupidity (why is it that we laugh at the cartoon animal who
falls for the "stand here and press this button" gag, but so many of us
seem content to "click here and be amazed"?)

Old guy

Moe Trin

Moe Trin wrote:
> In article <>, sh4d03 wrote:
>
>
>>Robin T Cox wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 06:48:49 -0800
>>> (Earl) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Am a new pc user and want to know if ok to use 2 or more spy programs.
>>>>Have Spy Sweeper now and would like to add SPYBOT SEARCH AND DESTROY or
>>>>something to find keyloggers or dialers as they look really bad. Have
>>>>seen not good to have 2 anti-virus--true ??.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's recommended as good practice to use more than one anti-spyware programs
>>>if you are running a Windows operating system. The usual 'best'
>>>recommendations are Ad-aware and Spybot S&D.
>>
>>I personally run AdAware SE, SpySweeper, SpywareBlaster and SpyBot SD.
>>Yes it is true that it's not a good idea to run more than one antivirus
>>at once as they'll conflict with each other. This is not so with
>>anti-spyware.
>>
>>I generally find that the combination I use is pretty thorough and not
>>too resource intensive - (won't slow down your pc too much).
>
>
> Why are you installing the spyware in the first place? Maybe if you
> stopped clicking 'OK' on everything, and turned off the ActiveX, Java,
> and other auto-install options, you wouldn't have this problem.
>
> It just so happens that the most frequently used vector to date is that
> of user stupidity (why is it that we laugh at the cartoon animal who
> falls for the "stand here and press this button" gag, but so many of us
> seem content to "click here and be amazed"?)
>
> Old guy
>

Old Guy you amaze me with your superios wisdom. As far as I can tell
from explicitly reading back over the inital post for this thread Robin
wasn't exactly asking for a complimentary IQ test. Rather I seem them as
being a person who has spyware or is expecting to get spyware or simply
is being cautious.

Robin, again I say that it's fine to use more than one anti-spyware
program. Programs such as the ones I mentioned earlier I find to be
quite efficient at keeping spyware at bay. If you have any further
questions which you don't wish to have ridiculed feel free to follow the
instructions below to contact me.

Sh4d03

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sh4d03

In article <41d8b697$>, sh4d03 wrote:

> Rather I seem them as being a person who has spyware or is expecting to
>get spyware or simply is being cautious.

So, you feel it's perfectly correct to allow spyware, trojans and viruses
to be installed, because you'll then get and run a "removal tool".

You, sir, have got a solid stone head. I'd rather not waste the time,
effort, bandwidth, and hassle of installing harmful applications that may
or may not be removable afterwards, and may get me in trouble with friends,
family, the ISP, or the neighborhood dog.

Or are you really that intrigued by the true story of snow white and the
seven dwarves, complete with MPEGs and surround sound?.

Old guy

Moe Trin

In article <>, on Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:14:35 -0600,
(Moe Trin) wrote:

| In article <41d8b697$>, sh4d03 wrote:
|
| > Rather I seem them as being a person who has spyware or is expecting to
| >get spyware or simply is being cautious.
|
| So, you feel it's perfectly correct to allow spyware, trojans and viruses
| to be installed, because you'll then get and run a "removal tool".
|
| You, sir, have got a solid stone head. I'd rather not waste the time,
| effort, bandwidth, and hassle of installing harmful applications that may
| or may not be removable afterwards, and may get me in trouble with friends,
| family, the ISP, or the neighborhood dog.
|
| Or are you really that intrigued by the true story of snow white and the
| seven dwarves, complete with MPEGs and surround sound?.
|
| Old guy

Neither the OP or any any other poster in this thread has said they had allowed
spyware to be installed.

Suggest you chill out and read more carefully.

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Thanks to all for the help.

Earl

In article <>, David Postill wrote:

>Neither the OP or any any other poster in this thread has said they had
>allowed spyware to be installed.

Malware does not appear magically on the hard disk. It gets installed
because the user clicks OK to install "something" (though they have no
idea what it might be), or because they have configured their browser
to automatically install the stuff without bothering the user with
petty details like getting permission to do so. This doesn't have to
occur, but given the large number of malware removal tools, users seem
to think it is natural. It is not.

>Suggest you chill out and read more carefully.

Suggest you learn how computers and mis-configured software operated by
people who don't want to learn cause problems for the rest of us.

Old guy

Moe Trin

In article <>, on Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:02:15 -0600,
(Moe Trin) wrote:

| In article <>, David Postill wrote:
|
| >Neither the OP or any any other poster in this thread has said they had
| >allowed spyware to be installed.
|
| Malware does not appear magically on the hard disk. It gets installed
| because the user clicks OK to install "something" (though they have no
| idea what it might be), or because they have configured their browser
| to automatically install the stuff without bothering the user with
| petty details like getting permission to do so. This doesn't have to
| occur, but given the large number of malware removal tools, users seem
| to think it is natural. It is not.

| >Suggest you chill out and read more carefully.
|
| Suggest you learn how computers and mis-configured software operated by
| people who don't want to learn cause problems for the rest of us.
|
| Old guy

What makes you think I don't know? I'm an "old guy" too. Been in the
computing business over 20 years.

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