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In article , nemo (nemo outis) wrote:
...snip...
>Put 127.0.0.1 9050 as the two fields regarding socks proxy
>(leaving the rest of the entries, especially http and https,
>blank!) in either Firefox (Tools-Options-Connection
>Settings-Manual Proxy Configuration) or Internt Explorer
>(Tools-Internet Options-Connections-LAN Settings-Use a proxy
>server...-Advanced) and all will be well.
>
>Regards,


Whoops! That'll teach me to read before I cut & paste. The
last paragraph is what you do if you want your browser to talk
DIRECTLY to Tor BYPASSING Privoxy. (Everything above the last
paragraph is OK)

For your browser to speak to Privoxy (which in turn speaks to
Tor) you put 127.0.0.1 8118 in both the http and https fields
under the connection settings in your browser (leaving the
socks-related fields blank).

Regards,

nemo outis wrote:
>
> In article , nemo (nemo outis) wrote:
> ..snip...
> >Put 127.0.0.1 9050 as the two fields regarding socks proxy
> >(leaving the rest of the entries, especially http and https,
> >blank!) in either Firefox (Tools-Options-Connection
> >Settings-Manual Proxy Configuration) or Internt Explorer
> >(Tools-Internet Options-Connections-LAN Settings-Use a proxy
> >server...-Advanced) and all will be well.
> >
> >Regards,
>
> Whoops! That'll teach me to read before I cut & paste. The
> last paragraph is what you do if you want your browser to talk
> DIRECTLY to Tor BYPASSING Privoxy. (Everything above the last
> paragraph is OK)
>
> For your browser to speak to Privoxy (which in turn speaks to
> Tor) you put 127.0.0.1 8118 in both the http and https fields
> under the connection settings in your browser (leaving the
> socks-related fields blank).
>
> Regards,

Hi nemo, many thanks. Yep it's now working I've not tried Privoxy
yet, though. That's next on the list. It's quite something to see
websites saying my ip address is what it is not

I have the TOR site bokmarked. Is there any other site or newsgroup I
can subscribe to, to keep up to date with Tor developments?

Again, many thanks. I really appreciate the time and trouble you have
gone to to explain the ins-and-outs to a windows user. (Anyone else
reading this thread, why not give it a go!)

regards

Mili

In article <>, MiLi wrote:
>
>Hi nemo, many thanks. Yep it's now working I've not tried Privoxy
>yet, though. That's next on the list. It's quite something to see
>websites saying my ip address is what it is not

One of the things to notice is that your apparent IP address
(i.e., your exit point from the Tor network) will change
frequently. Tor dynamically builds and tears down "circuits"
(paths through the Tor network) during a session.

But you DO need privoxy. Without it your actual surfing will be
airtight but your DNS lookups won't be! DNS is a complementary
service that goes out to the net to "translate" strings like
www.someurl.com into numbers like 77.88.225.33. DNS lookups
(at least from Mozilla) *bypass* Tor when being resolved unless
you use Privoxy (or an equivalent). The problem (and it's an
application problem, not a Tor problem) is discussed here:

http://freehaven.net/tor/cvs/doc/CLIENTS

That's where privoxy comes in. Privoxy does 2 things, the first
essential, the second convenient.

The first - and most important - thing privoxy does (if you
configure it to stand betweeen your browser and Tor as a socks4a
intermediary) is *force* your browser to do its DNS lookups
through Tor, therby protecting you from any information "leakage"
in your DNS lookups.

The second thing privoxy does is very convenient but not
essential (and can be turned on or off at will). Privoxy acts as
an ad and popup blocker (oversimplifying a bit, but close).


>I have the TOR site bokmarked. Is there any other site or newsgroup I
>can subscribe to, to keep up to date with Tor developments?

I don't know of any. There was a flurry of discussion about Tor
on alt.privacy but it has died down somewhat lately.


>Again, many thanks. I really appreciate the time and trouble you have
>gone to to explain the ins-and-outs to a windows user. (Anyone else
>reading this thread, why not give it a go!)

Glad to be of help. Besides, Osama and I are always trying to
promote increased cover traffic on the networks we use

Regards

PS Tor can be used for other protocols besides surfing
(e.g., ftp). You will have to sort out the intricacies,
particularly the DNS info leakage one, for each. FWIW I use
flashfxp direct to Tor (no Privoxy) since flashfxp directly
supports socks4a proxy use.

nemo outis wrote:
>
> In article <>, MiLi wrote:
> >
> >Hi nemo, many thanks. Yep it's now working I've not tried Privoxy
> >yet, though. That's next on the list. It's quite something to see
> >websites saying my ip address is what it is not
>
> One of the things to notice is that your apparent IP address
> (i.e., your exit point from the Tor network) will change
> frequently. Tor dynamically builds and tears down "circuits"
> (paths through the Tor network) during a session.
>
> But you DO need privoxy. Without it your actual surfing will be
> airtight but your DNS lookups won't be! DNS is a complementary
> service that goes out to the net to "translate" strings like
> www.someurl.com into numbers like 77.88.225.33. DNS lookups
> (at least from Mozilla) *bypass* Tor when being resolved unless
> you use Privoxy (or an equivalent). The problem (and it's an
> application problem, not a Tor problem) is discussed here:
>
> http://freehaven.net/tor/cvs/doc/CLIENTS
>
> That's where privoxy comes in. Privoxy does 2 things, the first
> essential, the second convenient.
>
> The first - and most important - thing privoxy does (if you
> configure it to stand betweeen your browser and Tor as a socks4a
> intermediary) is *force* your browser to do its DNS lookups
> through Tor, therby protecting you from any information "leakage"
> in your DNS lookups.
>
> The second thing privoxy does is very convenient but not
> essential (and can be turned on or off at will). Privoxy acts as
> an ad and popup blocker (oversimplifying a bit, but close).
>
> >I have the TOR site bokmarked. Is there any other site or newsgroup I
> >can subscribe to, to keep up to date with Tor developments?
>
> I don't know of any. There was a flurry of discussion about Tor
> on alt.privacy but it has died down somewhat lately.
>
> >Again, many thanks. I really appreciate the time and trouble you have
> >gone to to explain the ins-and-outs to a windows user. (Anyone else
> >reading this thread, why not give it a go!)
>
> Glad to be of help. Besides, Osama and I are always trying to
> promote increased cover traffic on the networks we use
>
> Regards
>
> PS Tor can be used for other protocols besides surfing
> (e.g., ftp). You will have to sort out the intricacies,
> particularly the DNS info leakage one, for each. FWIW I use
> flashfxp direct to Tor (no Privoxy) since flashfxp directly
> supports socks4a proxy use.


Yep, I had figured out a couple of things already, thanks to your recent
posts. Got Privoxy working ok

Also, have you see wiki wiki (guess so) -- I'm still trying to wrap my
mind around editing remote web pages.

> Glad to be of help. Besides, <snip> are always trying to
> promote increased cover traffic on the networks we use
>
> Regards
>
> PS Tor can be used for other protocols besides surfing
> (e.g., ftp). You will have to sort out the intricacies,
> particularly the DNS info leakage one, for each. FWIW I use
> flashfxp direct to Tor (no Privoxy) since flashfxp directly
> supports socks4a proxy use.

Good point. Maybe (or especially) to newsgroup postings!

In article <>, MiLi wrote:
>> Glad to be of help. Besides, <snip> are always trying to
>> promote increased cover traffic on the networks we use
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> PS Tor can be used for other protocols besides surfing
>> (e.g., ftp). You will have to sort out the intricacies,
>> particularly the DNS info leakage one, for each. FWIW I use
>> flashfxp direct to Tor (no Privoxy) since flashfxp directly
>> supports socks4a proxy use.
>
>Good point. Maybe (or especially) to newsgroup postings!


Yep, there has been a fair amount posted on nntp posting through
Tor on alt.privacy. You'll need a non-ISP newsserver, of course
(easynews seems to be popular).

Regards,

DON wrote:
>
> nemo outis wrote:
>
> http://globalfire.tv/nj/04en/politics/rove.htm
>
> > In article <>, MiLi wrote:
> >
> >>>Glad to be of help. Besides, <snip> are always trying to
> >>>promote increased cover traffic on the networks we use
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>
> >>>PS Tor can be used for other protocols besides surfing
> >>>(e.g., ftp). You will have to sort out the intricacies,
> >>>particularly the DNS info leakage one, for each. FWIW I use
> >>>flashfxp direct to Tor (no Privoxy) since flashfxp directly
> >>>supports socks4a proxy use.
> >>
> >>Good point. Maybe (or especially) to newsgroup postings!
> >
> >
> >
> > Yep, there has been a fair amount posted on nntp posting through
> > Tor on alt.privacy. You'll need a non-ISP newsserver, of course
> > (easynews seems to be popular).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
I guess that all that is necessary is for the Newsreader to support a
manual proxy configuration (i.e. 127.0.0.1 :9050)? Then it connects
straight to TOR, right?

One other tihng is for the user to set up the newsreader with the
Newserver's IP address, rather than its DNS address, so as to prevent
leakage. For, if I understand correctly, you cannot use Privoxy for NG
client applications.