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Old 10-04-2004, 12:16 AM   #1
Default Symantec Antivirus Corporate vs. Norton Anti-Virus


This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.

I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows XP)
at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.

Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one is
better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the system
safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).

Thanks

JC




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Old 10-04-2004, 01:47 AM   #2
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:16:40 GMT, "Johnny Canuck"
<> wrote:

>This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.
>
>I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows XP)
>at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.
>
>Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one is
>better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the system
>safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).
>
>Thanks
>
>JC
>

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Norton is made by Symantec, so I don't know how much of a difference
there is.


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Old 10-04-2004, 01:55 AM   #3
David H. Lipman
 
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McAfee's corp. AV products are better than their retail products.

NAV may be retail and SAV may be corp. so their might be a difference.
I wouldn't know because I won't touch their AV products if you paid me to.

Dave




"donnie" <> wrote in message
news...
| On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:16:40 GMT, "Johnny Canuck"
| <> wrote:
|
| >This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.
| >
| >I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows XP)
| >at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.
| >
| >Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one is
| >better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the system
| >safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).
| >
| >Thanks
| >
| >JC
| >
| #######################
| Norton is made by Symantec, so I don't know how much of a difference
| there is.




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Old 10-04-2004, 02:16 AM   #4
Leythos
 
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Default Re: Symantec Antivirus Corporate vs. Norton Anti-Virus
In article <sL%7d.3671$j24.1156@clgrps12>,
says...
> This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.
>
> I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows XP)
> at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.
>
> Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one is
> better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the system
> safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).


I run Symantec Corp Edition products on all of our Home and Business
systems, and all of our clients run Symantec AV products. While using
Symantec products we've not experienced any compromises by viruses, not
had any installation or performance problems, and feel reasonably virus
secure.

I have also used Norton 2000~2004 products on other systems, and we
avoid the Suites (NIS, NPF, etc..), we only use Norton Anti-Virus. It's
been the same, reliable, easy, secure, not one system compromised.

We just did a cleaning of a Sorority at a local university, 40 machines,
from all different places, mostly Windows XP, about 6 Windows 98, 1 Win
ME, and 1 MAC. The systems were running mostly McAfee (about 25 of
them), about 10 were running Norton 2002 & 2004, and several were
running CA AV software.

There were three machines that were clean - they had Norton AV 2004 on
them, were updated, and had XP SP1 and auto-update turned on. The MAC
was clean, but it had not been patched for the latest OS/X flaws.

The machines with McAfee products were the most infected - anywhere from
100 to more than 400 viruses found (we removed McAfee and used Free AVG
on those machines). Several were so bad that we wiped them. In almost
every case the McAfee product was installed by the computer vendor (Dell
being the most common) and not setup to pull updates - not one person
knew that they had to register to get updates, and it's not clear that
they were unprotected).

We cleaned the systems, installed free AVG Personal or, if a valid
subscription was present, we updated and re-ran the scans (double
checking with AVG also). We installed XP-SP2, disabled File/Printer
sharing and all seems to be running well.

If they could have afforded it I would have install Symantec Corporate
Small Business Edition 8.1 on every one of them and set the server to
control updates and functions.

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Old 10-04-2004, 06:50 AM   #5
Johnny Canuck
 
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> #######################
> Norton is made by Symantec, so I don't know how much of a difference
> there is.


That is kinda the reason why I made this thread because I figured as much as
well...




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Old 10-04-2004, 06:52 AM   #6
Johnny Canuck
 
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Helpful info with some nice statistics for the MacAfee vs. Norton stuff
thanks.

Any idea on what is different between symantec anti virus and norton
anti-virus though?

Thanks

JC

"Leythos" <> wrote in message
news:...
> In article <sL%7d.3671$j24.1156@clgrps12>,
> says...
>> This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.
>>
>> I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows
>> XP)
>> at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one
>> is
>> better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the
>> system
>> safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).

>
> I run Symantec Corp Edition products on all of our Home and Business
> systems, and all of our clients run Symantec AV products. While using
> Symantec products we've not experienced any compromises by viruses, not
> had any installation or performance problems, and feel reasonably virus
> secure.
>
> I have also used Norton 2000~2004 products on other systems, and we
> avoid the Suites (NIS, NPF, etc..), we only use Norton Anti-Virus. It's
> been the same, reliable, easy, secure, not one system compromised.
>
> We just did a cleaning of a Sorority at a local university, 40 machines,
> from all different places, mostly Windows XP, about 6 Windows 98, 1 Win
> ME, and 1 MAC. The systems were running mostly McAfee (about 25 of
> them), about 10 were running Norton 2002 & 2004, and several were
> running CA AV software.
>
> There were three machines that were clean - they had Norton AV 2004 on
> them, were updated, and had XP SP1 and auto-update turned on. The MAC
> was clean, but it had not been patched for the latest OS/X flaws.
>
> The machines with McAfee products were the most infected - anywhere from
> 100 to more than 400 viruses found (we removed McAfee and used Free AVG
> on those machines). Several were so bad that we wiped them. In almost
> every case the McAfee product was installed by the computer vendor (Dell
> being the most common) and not setup to pull updates - not one person
> knew that they had to register to get updates, and it's not clear that
> they were unprotected).
>
> We cleaned the systems, installed free AVG Personal or, if a valid
> subscription was present, we updated and re-ran the scans (double
> checking with AVG also). We installed XP-SP2, disabled File/Printer
> sharing and all seems to be running well.
>
> If they could have afforded it I would have install Symantec Corporate
> Small Business Edition 8.1 on every one of them and set the server to
> control updates and functions.
>
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>
> (Remove 999 to reply to me)





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Old 10-04-2004, 06:55 AM   #7
Quaoar
 
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Leythos wrote:
> In article <sL%7d.3671$j24.1156@clgrps12>,
> says...
>> This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky
>> anti-virus.
>>
>> I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in
>> Windows XP) at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a
>> superior product.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which
>> one is better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and
>> keeping the system safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).

>
> I run Symantec Corp Edition products on all of our Home and Business
> systems, and all of our clients run Symantec AV products. While using
> Symantec products we've not experienced any compromises by viruses,
> not had any installation or performance problems, and feel reasonably
> virus secure.
>
> I have also used Norton 2000~2004 products on other systems, and we
> avoid the Suites (NIS, NPF, etc..), we only use Norton Anti-Virus.
> It's been the same, reliable, easy, secure, not one system
> compromised.
>
> We just did a cleaning of a Sorority at a local university, 40
> machines, from all different places, mostly Windows XP, about 6
> Windows 98, 1 Win ME, and 1 MAC. The systems were running mostly
> McAfee (about 25 of them), about 10 were running Norton 2002 & 2004,
> and several were running CA AV software.
>
> There were three machines that were clean - they had Norton AV 2004 on
> them, were updated, and had XP SP1 and auto-update turned on. The MAC
> was clean, but it had not been patched for the latest OS/X flaws.
>
> The machines with McAfee products were the most infected - anywhere
> from 100 to more than 400 viruses found (we removed McAfee and used
> Free AVG on those machines). Several were so bad that we wiped them.
> In almost every case the McAfee product was installed by the computer
> vendor (Dell being the most common) and not setup to pull updates -
> not one person knew that they had to register to get updates, and
> it's not clear that they were unprotected).
>
> We cleaned the systems, installed free AVG Personal or, if a valid
> subscription was present, we updated and re-ran the scans (double
> checking with AVG also). We installed XP-SP2, disabled File/Printer
> sharing and all seems to be running well.
>
> If they could have afforded it I would have install Symantec Corporate
> Small Business Edition 8.1 on every one of them and set the server to
> control updates and functions.
>
> --


I have always believed that Norton AV is a superior product. The
problem with Norton and the rest of Symantec's products is that they
cannot be readily removed. Consequently these products rank right up
there with AOL as dangerous for the home user. If Symantec could or
would take the time to clean out their astounding number of registry
entries they might regain my trust and the trust of others. As it
stands now, any vendor that cannot clean up after themselves is every
bit as undesireable for the home user as the average virus infection.
It's should be a simple issue which raises the question of why Symantec
is unwilling.

Q




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Old 10-04-2004, 08:12 AM   #8
Clive
 
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"Johnny Canuck" <> wrote in message
news:sL%7d.3671$j24.1156@clgrps12...
> This question isn't for me since I will be running Kapersky anti-virus.
>
> I have a friend who is running Symantec AntiVirus Corporate (in Windows
> XP) at work and he was told that Norton Anti-Virus was a superior product.
>
> Any thoughts on what are the differences between the two, and which one is
> better? (i.e. as in more effective at finding viruses and keeping the
> system safe, less CPU overhead, etc.).
>
> Thanks
>
> JC

I got hold of a copy (5 licence) of SAV Corp edition. Firstly it isn't
bloatware - ok it's not the 'slimest' of AV products, but no were near as
bloated as their retail products - my system hardly slows down at all (2ghz
P4).

The detection rate seems to be good (SAV has picked up stuff that AVG Pro 7
or Avast didn't find).

IMHO Norton/Symantec has always had a pretty good detection rate. I think a
lot of people are put off because their retail products are such resource
hogs and put lot's of files all over a system.

Clive




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Old 10-04-2004, 11:38 AM   #9
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In article <hy58d.8745$MV5.5193@clgrps13>,
says...
> Helpful info with some nice statistics for the MacAfee vs. Norton stuff
> thanks.
>
> Any idea on what is different between symantec anti virus and norton
> anti-virus though?


The Symantec product "Small Business Edition 8.1" seems to have a
smaller foot-print, runs faster, but does not have all the nice pretty
things that make home users feel warm and fuzzy. For instance, when
scanning outbound and inbound email with 2004 you see the icon working,
with SBE 8.1 I never see it scanning the email, at least I don't see it
doing it on the desktop.

I like SBE because it appears to be less overhead. I have no idea if
they use the same engine.

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Old 10-04-2004, 11:39 AM   #10
Leythos
 
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In article <9dSdnXaIQaRyeP3cRVn->,
says...
> I have always believed that Norton AV is a superior product. The
> problem with Norton and the rest of Symantec's products is that they
> cannot be readily removed.


I remove it from several machines that were of different types, and we
removed the Norton product from hundreds of systems to replace it with
Symantec SBE Corporate Edition. Not a single removal problem on any of
the machines.

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