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It's not just Symantec Internet Security you know. Almost all programs in
the Norton product range are buggy resource hungry bloatware.

I refuse to use any Symantec product, and have done so for over 5 years
now.
It's a shame Symantec/Norton are so well known. Millions of computer
illiterates buy Norton products thinking it will protect their computers
from viruses and hackers. They think an antivirus and a firewall will
protect them from 100% of viruses and hackers 100% of the time. Little do
they know that by installing the Norton product they get minimal
protection, and system destabilization. Either the computer crashes or
they get infected by some virus which NAV failed to detect.
They then contact Symantec 'support' wait a few hours in a que only to get
through to some Indian call centre who you cant understand what they are
saying. Eventually, after saying 'pardon, could you repeat that please?' a
few times you manage to decrypt the poor English you hear down the phone
and it appears to say 'reinstall Norton product. If problem persists go to
the Symantec support website for more information. If this does not work
then ring us back. Thanks for calling Symantec support. Goodbye!'.
This is just a typical scenario all too common with Symantec products.

I am renowned in my area for being the 'computer geek/repair guy'. When
the W32/Blaster-A virus was released I was asked to repair several
computers. Guess which 'antivirus' they were using?
Of course, you knew it - Good old Norton! (McAfee was also installed on
another user's pc). I fixed the problem with Sophos Resolve and advised
them to uninstall the Norton product immediately, which I did for them.
I replaced NAV with NOD32 as on access scanner and Sophos Anti-Virus as on
demand scanner, and installed and configured Tiny Firewall correctly.
The users who followed my advice have not yet had another virus infection,
and I have not been called to assist them.

All I can say is that my experience and the experience of many other users
indicates that Symantec/Norton products are indeed poor and should be
avoided unless you want to get infected by some virus or end up having some
cracker attacking your pc.

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> All I can say is that my experience and the experience of many other users
> indicates that Symantec/Norton products are indeed poor and should be
> avoided unless you want to get infected by some virus or end up having some
> cracker attacking your pc.

Any you will find hundreds of more users that are fully protected by the
Norton products, never have experienced a virus because of them, and
that have no need for other products.

Our customers, with many systems across the US and outside, are
protected by Symantec products (in addition to others) that they have
never had a virus in more than 10 years. In fact, in 28+ years of my
working with computers I've never been infected with any virus, and
neither has any computer system that I've been responsible for managing.

Norton and Symantec products work great. Keep in mind, all AV products
are reactionary, you need to understand the threats to protect your
systems, and AV products are only a small part of that protection plan.

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> Any you will find hundreds of more users that are fully protected by
> the Norton products, never have experienced a virus because of them,
> and that have no need for other products.
>
> Our customers, with many systems across the US and outside, are
> protected by Symantec products (in addition to others) that they have
> never had a virus in more than 10 years. In fact, in 28+ years of my
> working with computers I've never been infected with any virus, and
> neither has any computer system that I've been responsible for
> managing.
>
> Norton and Symantec products work great. Keep in mind, all AV products
> are reactionary, you need to understand the threats to protect your
> systems, and AV products are only a small part of that protection
> plan.
>

I must agree with Theodore Spoonbender and the user who was hiding behind
the remailer. Norton Anti-Virus is pretty crap. The main problem is the
severe bloatedness, slow scan speeds and increased frequency of computer
crashes and BSODs. Detection is fair, but not as good as all the pc
magazines make it out to be. Most pc magazines say NAV is the best
antivirus. lol. They obviously have not heard of NOD32!
I guess Symantec just pays the pc magazines large sums of money for
promoting their product. If Aladdin were as big as Symantec, I wonder if
eSafe would emerge as the best antivirus (according to pc magazines), even
though it is probably the worst.

Anonymous wrote:

> I must agree with Theodore Spoonbender and the user who was hiding behind
> the remailer. Norton Anti-Virus is pretty crap. The main problem is the
> severe bloatedness, slow scan speeds and increased frequency of computer
> crashes and BSODs. Detection is fair, but not as good as all the pc
> magazines make it out to be. Most pc magazines say NAV is the best
> antivirus. lol. They obviously have not heard of NOD32!
> I guess Symantec just pays the pc magazines large sums of money for
> promoting their product. If Aladdin were as big as Symantec, I wonder if
> eSafe would emerge as the best antivirus (according to pc magazines), even
> though it is probably the worst.
>

Now I'm using a version of Symantec AV CE, which is a much different
product than the home user editions. It is not bloated, doesn't scan
slowly, nor does it blue screen. It's a Symantec product, so your
generalizations doesn't hold true.

BTW, I know the difference. I'm a licensed user of NOD32 on another
system and own several licenses for several other AV products I use on
several other systems.

"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <> wrote in
message news: vacy.at...
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> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> It's not just Symantec Internet Security you know. Almost all programs in
> the Norton product range are buggy resource hungry bloatware.
>
> I refuse to use any Symantec product, and have done so for over 5 years
> now.
> It's a shame Symantec/Norton are so well known. Millions of computer
> illiterates buy Norton products thinking it will protect their computers
> from viruses and hackers. They think an antivirus and a firewall will
> protect them from 100% of viruses and hackers 100% of the time. Little do
> they know that by installing the Norton product they get minimal
> protection, and system destabilization. Either the computer crashes or
> they get infected by some virus which NAV failed to detect.
> They then contact Symantec 'support' wait a few hours in a que only to get
> through to some Indian call centre who you cant understand what they are
> saying. Eventually, after saying 'pardon, could you repeat that please?'
a
> few times you manage to decrypt the poor English you hear down the phone
> and it appears to say 'reinstall Norton product. If problem persists go
to
> the Symantec support website for more information. If this does not work
> then ring us back. Thanks for calling Symantec support. Goodbye!'.
> This is just a typical scenario all too common with Symantec products.
>
> I am renowned in my area for being the 'computer geek/repair guy'. When
> the W32/Blaster-A virus was released I was asked to repair several
> computers. Guess which 'antivirus' they were using?
> Of course, you knew it - Good old Norton! (McAfee was also installed on
> another user's pc). I fixed the problem with Sophos Resolve and advised
> them to uninstall the Norton product immediately, which I did for them.
> I replaced NAV with NOD32 as on access scanner and Sophos Anti-Virus as on
> demand scanner, and installed and configured Tiny Firewall correctly.
> The users who followed my advice have not yet had another virus infection,
> and I have not been called to assist them.
>
> All I can say is that my experience and the experience of many other users
> indicates that Symantec/Norton products are indeed poor and should be
> avoided unless you want to get infected by some virus or end up having
some
> cracker attacking your pc.
>
>

I use Norton and have NEVER had a problem....

V.B.

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
>"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <> wrote in
>message news: vacy.at...
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>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> It's not just Symantec Internet Security you know. Almost all programs in
>> the Norton product range are buggy resource hungry bloatware.
>>
>> I refuse to use any Symantec product, and have done so for over 5 years
>> now.
>> It's a shame Symantec/Norton are so well known. Millions of computer
>> illiterates buy Norton products thinking it will protect their computers
>> from viruses and hackers. They think an antivirus and a firewall will
>> protect them from 100% of viruses and hackers 100% of the time. Little do
>> they know that by installing the Norton product they get minimal
>> protection, and system destabilization. Either the computer crashes or
>> they get infected by some virus which NAV failed to detect.
>> They then contact Symantec 'support' wait a few hours in a que only to get
>> through to some Indian call centre who you cant understand what they are
>> saying. Eventually, after saying 'pardon, could you repeat that please?'
>a
>> few times you manage to decrypt the poor English you hear down the phone
>> and it appears to say 'reinstall Norton product. If problem persists go
>to
>> the Symantec support website for more information. If this does not work
>> then ring us back. Thanks for calling Symantec support. Goodbye!'.
>> This is just a typical scenario all too common with Symantec products.
>>
>> I am renowned in my area for being the 'computer geek/repair guy'. When
>> the W32/Blaster-A virus was released I was asked to repair several
>I use Norton and have NEVER had a problem....
>
So what, wait until you come to uninstall the thing!!!
It leaves traces of itself all over the HD; The last two computer repairs
I've done had these issues, and the program had to be manually uninstalled.

As the pervious posters have recommended, try NOD32, AVG or the one I use
AVAST.


Cheers
Fred

"An Metet" <> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
> >"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <> wrote in
> >message news: vacy.at...
> >> NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway.
> >> No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender.
> >> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> It's not just Symantec Internet Security you know. Almost all programs
in
> >> the Norton product range are buggy resource hungry bloatware.
> >>
> >> I refuse to use any Symantec product, and have done so for over 5 years
> >> now.
> >> It's a shame Symantec/Norton are so well known. Millions of computer
> >> illiterates buy Norton products thinking it will protect their
computers
> >> from viruses and hackers. They think an antivirus and a firewall will
> >> protect them from 100% of viruses and hackers 100% of the time. Little
do
> >> they know that by installing the Norton product they get minimal
> >> protection, and system destabilization. Either the computer crashes or
> >> they get infected by some virus which NAV failed to detect.
> >> They then contact Symantec 'support' wait a few hours in a que only to
get
> >> through to some Indian call centre who you cant understand what they
are
> >> saying. Eventually, after saying 'pardon, could you repeat that
please?'
> >a
> >> few times you manage to decrypt the poor English you hear down the
phone
> >> and it appears to say 'reinstall Norton product. If problem persists
go
> >to
> >> the Symantec support website for more information. If this does not
work
> >> then ring us back. Thanks for calling Symantec support. Goodbye!'.
> >> This is just a typical scenario all too common with Symantec products.
> >>
> >> I am renowned in my area for being the 'computer geek/repair guy'.
When
> >> the W32/Blaster-A virus was released I was asked to repair several
> >I use Norton and have NEVER had a problem....
> >
> So what, wait until you come to uninstall the thing!!!
> It leaves traces of itself all over the HD; The last two computer repairs
> I've done had these issues, and the program had to be manually
uninstalled.
>
> As the pervious posters have recommended, try NOD32, AVG or the one I use
> AVAST.
>
>
> Cheers
> Fred

Well, since I don't have problems with it, why would I want to uninstall
it????

V.B.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
>"An Metet" <> wrote in message
>news: ster...
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
>> >"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <> wrote in
>> >message news: vacy.at...

>
>Well, since I don't have problems with it, why would I want to uninstall
>it????


Oh you will one day.

I helped a mate with his ADSL connection yesterday, and he had Nortons
installed, and yes it was the latest with the definitions uptodate too.
After removing Nortons from his HD, we installed AVAST, and it promptly
found 9 viruses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cheers
Fred

In article < >,
says...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
> >"An Metet" <> wrote in message
> >news: ster...
> >> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, "vb" <> wrote:
> >> >"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" <> wrote in
> >> >message news: vacy.at...
>
> >
> >Well, since I don't have problems with it, why would I want to uninstall
> >it????
>
>
> Oh you will one day.
>
> I helped a mate with his ADSL connection yesterday, and he had Nortons
> installed, and yes it was the latest with the definitions uptodate too.
> After removing Nortons from his HD, we installed AVAST, and it promptly
> found 9 viruses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Run it in safe-mode and see if you find any more.

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