Symantec 05-12 update issues

Hello..

Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.

Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.

Anyone having this issue? what can be done?

-Mike

mike@mechanic.com

In article <>,
says...
>
> Hello..
>
> Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.
>
> Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
> It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
> Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.
>
> Anyone having this issue? what can be done?
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
I have a related problem. Now, when I try to run LIve Update for NAV,
it says it can't access the internet, error LU 1814. I followed every
single step on the knowledge base with no success.

As soon as I turn off the NIS, live update works fine for both NAV and
Winfax Pro.

The worst part is the Norton is no longer supporting 2002.

Louise

Louise

In article <>,
says...
> In article <>,
> says...
> >
> > Hello..
> >
> > Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.
> >
> > Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
> > It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
> > Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.
> >
> > Anyone having this issue? what can be done?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> >
> I have a related problem. Now, when I try to run LIve Update for NAV,
> it says it can't access the internet, error LU 1814. I followed every
> single step on the knowledge base with no success.
>
> As soon as I turn off the NIS, live update works fine for both NAV and
> Winfax Pro.
>
> The worst part is the Norton is no longer supporting 2002.
>
> Louise
>
I downloaded the 2004 trial version of personal firewall and it told me
my time was up for the trial because it obviously picked something up
from my old installation (which I uninstalled and used JV16 to clean).
So then I bought 2004 - AND - still the same error.

Not only that, but it takes 11 minutes to boot while running NIS or the
newer version, and 3-4 minutes to boot without it. I think this is
called "bloatware" to say the least. I suspect it has seometing to do
with the new program security protection.

Well, I've left Symantec's "protection".

Have you looked at Sygate? They have a free version for home use and a
more "sophisticated" version, with support, for $40. I installed it and
so far, I'm quite happy.

Another option I tried, and liked, is ZoneAlarm. It keeps a little icon
on the taskbar that shows activity and I found it so distracting, that I
uninstalled the program and am now using Sygate. But you might look at
both of them.

Louise

Louise

On Sat, 15 May 2004 02:58:42 -0400, Louise <> brought
the following to our attention:

>In article <>,
> says...
>>
>> Hello..
>>
>> Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.
>>
>> Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
>> It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
>> Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.
>>
>> Anyone having this issue? what can be done?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>>
>>
>I have a related problem. Now, when I try to run LIve Update for NAV,
>it says it can't access the internet, error LU 1814. I followed every
>single step on the knowledge base with no success.
>

What's happening here is a `localhost loop' as I'd describe it. Like a
redirector confusion that repeatedly asks to grant permission.. and
then a `memory error' is generated in trying to write the `rules
table'. It ultimately has to be rebooted or worse a bluescreen
results. This is most annoying as you can understand.

-Mike


>As soon as I turn off the NIS, live update works fine for both NAV and
>Winfax Pro.
>
>The worst part is the Norton is no longer supporting 2002.
>
>Louise

mike@mechanic.com

On Sun, 16 May 2004 01:51:08 -0400, Louise <> brought
the following to our attention:

>In article < >, says...
>> In article < >, says...
>> >
>> > Hello..
>> >
>> > Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.
>> >
>> > Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
>> > It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
>> > Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.
>> >
>> > Anyone having this issue? what can be done?
>> >
>> > -Mike
>> >
>> >
>> I have a related problem. Now, when I try to run LIve Update for NAV,
>> it says it can't access the internet, error LU 1814. I followed every
>> single step on the knowledge base with no success.
>>
>> As soon as I turn off the NIS, live update works fine for both NAV and
>> Winfax Pro.
>>
>> The worst part is the Norton is no longer supporting 2002.
>>
>> Louise
>>
>I downloaded the 2004 trial version of personal firewall and it told me
>my time was up for the trial because it obviously picked something up
>from my old installation (which I uninstalled and used JV16 to clean).
>So then I bought 2004 - AND - still the same error.
>
>Not only that, but it takes 11 minutes to boot while running NIS or the
>newer version, and 3-4 minutes to boot without it. I think this is
>called "bloatware" to say the least. I suspect it has seometing to do
>with the new program security protection.
>
>Well, I've left Symantec's "protection".
>
>Have you looked at Sygate? They have a free version for home use and a
>more "sophisticated" version, with support, for $40. I installed it and
>so far, I'm quite happy.
>
>Another option I tried, and liked, is ZoneAlarm. It keeps a little icon
>on the taskbar that shows activity and I found it so distracting, that I
>uninstalled the program and am now using Sygate. But you might look at
>both of them.
>
>Louise

Downloaded both ZA 4x and Sygate 5x freewares.. have a spare PC and
will likely install on that box to evaluate.. not sure which one to go
with.. except to say that I ran ZA 26x prior to Symantec 2002 suite
and generally liked it [ZA] due to ease of operation and its
effectiveness. Would like to give Sygate a run next.. yep.

-Mike

mike@mechanic.com

In article <>,
says...
> On Sun, 16 May 2004 01:51:08 -0400, Louise <> brought
> the following to our attention:
>
> >In article < >, says...
> >> In article < >, says...
> >> >
> >> > Hello..
> >> >
> >> > Have Norton 2002 and retrieved updates on May-12th via LiveUpdate.
> >> >
> >> > Since then.. through today that is.. Firewall is behaving VERY badly.
> >> > It often prompts for a Comm Access that NO REPLY will satisfy.
> >> > Eventually a reboot is needed to straighten out.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone having this issue? what can be done?
> >> >
> >> > -Mike
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I have a related problem. Now, when I try to run LIve Update for NAV,
> >> it says it can't access the internet, error LU 1814. I followed every
> >> single step on the knowledge base with no success.
> >>
> >> As soon as I turn off the NIS, live update works fine for both NAV and
> >> Winfax Pro.
> >>
> >> The worst part is the Norton is no longer supporting 2002.
> >>
> >> Louise
> >>
> >I downloaded the 2004 trial version of personal firewall and it told me
> >my time was up for the trial because it obviously picked something up
> >from my old installation (which I uninstalled and used JV16 to clean).
> >So then I bought 2004 - AND - still the same error.
> >
> >Not only that, but it takes 11 minutes to boot while running NIS or the
> >newer version, and 3-4 minutes to boot without it. I think this is
> >called "bloatware" to say the least. I suspect it has seometing to do
> >with the new program security protection.
> >
> >Well, I've left Symantec's "protection".
> >
> >Have you looked at Sygate? They have a free version for home use and a
> >more "sophisticated" version, with support, for $40. I installed it and
> >so far, I'm quite happy.
> >
> >Another option I tried, and liked, is ZoneAlarm. It keeps a little icon
> >on the taskbar that shows activity and I found it so distracting, that I
> >uninstalled the program and am now using Sygate. But you might look at
> >both of them.
Update on Sygate. I find it works very well. The icon on the taskbar
is much less distracting and can be completely removed from the taskbar
should you want to.

But the most outstanding thing for me is that my whole machine is
faster. I think NIS was really slowing things down.

Which one have you decided to go with?

Louise

Louise

It appears that Symantec may now have fixed this problem. See
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...2609~mode=flat , which apparently
came out late on Friday evening.

Have any of the NIS/NPF 2002 users that experienced the problem after the 12
May LiveUpdate applied this patch; does it solve the problem?

Next question: Does this fix, primarily for NIS/NPF 2002 users, still
provide a solution to the eEYE vulnerabilities that started all this?
(Anyone checked using eEYE's Retina scanner?)

And finally, by way of feedback, just what files are changed by this update?

Joseph V. Morris

In article <40b096f6$0$3152$>,
says...
> It appears that Symantec may now have fixed this problem. See
> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...2609~mode=flat , which apparently
> came out late on Friday evening.
>
> Have any of the NIS/NPF 2002 users that experienced the problem after the 12
> May LiveUpdate applied this patch; does it solve the problem?
>
> Next question: Does this fix, primarily for NIS/NPF 2002 users, still
> provide a solution to the eEYE vulnerabilities that started all this?
> (Anyone checked using eEYE's Retina scanner?)
>
> And finally, by way of feedback, just what files are changed by this update?
>
>
>
I can't answer these questions because after Symantec did this, put no
notice on their website, said they no longer supported 2002 etc. etc., I
decided to end my relationship with their overly bloated "protection".

I ended up installing the free version of Sygate and have been quite
happy so far.

Louise

Louise

Louise,

"Louise" <> wrote in message
news:.. .
> In article <40b096f6$0$3152$>,
.. . . .
> I can't answer these questions because after Symantec did this, put no
> notice on their website, said they no longer supported 2002 etc. etc., I
> decided to end my relationship with their overly bloated "protection".

> I ended up installing the free version of Sygate and have been quite
> happy so far.

Thou art not alone! <g>

Joseph V. Morris