Tiny Personal Firewall - which version?

I am running XP and want a firewall. A long time ago I tried Zone
Alarm but it used too many system resiurces and it was very messy to
uninstall properly.

Then I tried Sygate Pro. That seemed very nice but I got a lot of
trouble with not being able to connect to the net after booting up.

Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
free version?

Is theer anything important in the chargeable version 5.0 of TPF
which the free version does not have?

Piotr Makley

Piotr Makley wrote:

> I am running XP and want a firewall. A long time ago I tried Zone
> Alarm but it used too many system resiurces and it was very messy to
> uninstall properly.

And it's hard to configure it properly as well...

> Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
> Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
> free version?
>
> Is theer anything important in the chargeable version 5.0 of TPF
> which the free version does not have?

Ehm well... It's suddenly not so tiny any more. TPF Used to be just a
Tiny Personal Firewall, but now it's suddenly an entire security suite
which enables you to manage lots of other stuff like which processes can
start other process an' all.

F

Frank van Meurs

Piotr Makley <> wrote in news:949FD81ADA18B31E75@127.0.0.1:

> Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
> Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
> free version?

No - in fact, it's quite old.

That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over 2 years
now.

The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:

http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe

It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I also think
it's the best free firewall there is.

donutbandit

donutbandit wrote:
> Piotr Makley <> wrote in news:949FD81ADA18B31E75@127.0.0.1:
>
>
>>Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
>>Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
>>free version?
>
>
> No - in fact, it's quite old.
>
> That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over 2 years
> now.
>
> The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
>
> http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
>
> It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I also think
> it's the best free firewall there is.

Actually, it is now at version 4 (paid version is even better). Very
nice interface design, very smooth installation process, and very easy
to use.

Ford Prefect

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> donutbandit wrote:
> > Piotr Makley <> wrote in
news:949FD81ADA18B31E75@127.0.0.1:
> >
> >
> >>Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
> >>Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
> >>free version?
> >
> >
> > No - in fact, it's quite old.
> >
> > That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over 2 years
> > now.
> >
> > The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
> >
> > http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
> >
> > It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I also
think
> > it's the best free firewall there is.
>
> Actually, it is now at version 4 (paid version is even better). Very
> nice interface design, very smooth installation process, and very easy
> to use.

Not on Windows ME. After a few days of testing KPF4, KPF2 is looking more
desirable.

Lamers Goin' Down

"donutbandit" said in news:c20jcv$6ne$:
> Piotr Makley <> wrote in
> news:949FD81ADA18B31E75@127.0.0.1:
>
>> Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny Personal
>> Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I this the latest
>> free version?
>
> No - in fact, it's quite old.
>
> That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over 2
> years now.
>
> The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
>
> http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
>
> It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I also
> think it's the best free firewall there is.

Since when did Tiny Personal Firewall become Kerio Personal Firewall?
Tiny Personal Firewall still exists (http://www.tinysoftware.com/) and
is freeware only for personal use. Kerio Personal Firewall also exists
(http://www.kerio.com/) and is the freebie version (WinRoute is their
big product).

I also tried using the freebie ZoneAlarm on a friend's Windows 2000 Pro
system but way too many times it would popup a warning about a
connection, require the user to allow the connection, never tell the
user what application was making the connection, and my friend (who is
not that savvy) had to keep opening the web-like interface to ZoneAlarm
to see what then got "?" for status regarding connections. It was not
an easy firewall to use, and even I wouldn't like it popping up to
notify of a connection attempt without telling me who was trying to make
the connection. When I tried configuring it, checking logs, and other
setup, there was just too much that it didn't have so I uninstall it
from his host. I don't know about TPF and Kerio but those look like
candidates.


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*Vanguard*

donutbandit <> wrote:

> Piotr Makley <> wrote in
>
>
>> Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny
>> Personal Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I
>> this the latest free version?
>
> No - in fact, it's quite old.
>
> That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over
> 2 years now.
>
> The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
>
> http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
>
> It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I
> also think it's the best free firewall there is.

Is the free version 2.1.5 of Tiny/Kerio any less secure than the paid
version 5.0 of Tiny? http://www.tinysoftware.com/

Is the difference mainly due to additional features?

If so then are any of these additional features really worth having?

Piotr Makley

>> That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for
>> over 2 years now.
>>
>> The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
>>
>> http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
>>
>> It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have.
>> I also think it's the best free firewall there is.

"*Vanguard*" <no-> wrote:
>
> Since when did Tiny Personal Firewall become Kerio Personal
> Firewall? Tiny Personal Firewall still exists
> (http://www.tinysoftware.com/) and is freeware only for personal
> use.

When I went to that site I couldn't see any download for a free
version for personal use. Did I miss a link?

> Kerio Personal Firewall also exists
> (http://www.kerio.com/) and is the freebie version (WinRoute is
> their big product).

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_comparison_version.html

Do you mean I need to go to Kerio to get the free version (version 4)
of the firewall?

If so then is Kerio version 4 and less secure than Tiny 2.1.5?

Piotr Makley

"*Vanguard*" <no-> wrote in news:IvqdnQMdFeEMr9ndRVn-
:

> Since when did Tiny Personal Firewall become Kerio Personal Firewall?
> Tiny Personal Firewall still exists (http://www.tinysoftware.com/) and
> is freeware only for personal use. Kerio Personal Firewall also exists
> (http://www.kerio.com/) and is the freebie version (WinRoute is their
> big product).

The original Tiny Personal Firewall (the one the OP was talking about,
version 2.0.4) became Kerio Personal Firewall over 2 years ago when the
programmers who developed it and Tiny Software decided to part ways.

The programmers took the program, renamed it Kerio Personal Firewall, and
continued development. It reached version 2.1.5, which is mature.

They then set out to produce Kerio Personal Firewall, version 4, which I do
NOT recommend. I've read little about it but bug reports. They tried to
dumb down the firewall for Zone Alarm users, and lost much of the excellent
configurabiltiy that made Tiny/Kerio so desirable.

Tiny Software, in the meantime, developed a new Tiny Personal Firewall,
version 3, which is COMPLETELY different, and is NOT free, not even for
personal use. It's expireware with a 30 day limit.

The recommended firewall is Kerio 2.1.5, which is the same firewall as the
OP was asking about (TPF 2.0.4) but greatly improved.

Hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

donutbandit

"Piotr Makley" <> wrote in message
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> donutbandit <> wrote:
>
> > Piotr Makley <> wrote in
> >
> >
> >> Now I want to try another firewall. I have come across Tiny
> >> Personal Firewall. I installed the free version 2.0.14. I
> >> this the latest free version?
> >
> > No - in fact, it's quite old.
> >
> > That firewall has been known as Kerio Personal Firewall for over
> > 2 years now.
> >
> > The latest version is 2.1.5 and can be gotten here:
> >
> > http://kerio.com/dwn/kpf/kerio-pf-2.1.5-en-win.exe
> >
> > It's the same firewall but improved over the version you have. I
> > also think it's the best free firewall there is.
>
> Is the free version 2.1.5 of Tiny/Kerio any less secure than the paid
> version 5.0 of Tiny? http://www.tinysoftware.com/
>
> Is the difference mainly due to additional features?
>
> If so then are any of these additional features really worth having?

I think you should also seriously consider Outpost Pro. I have been trying
different FW's for the past few months as a supplement to a hardware
firewall (I want something that would prevent any Trojans that I may get to
dial out- although with Symantec Corporate, a stand alone Trojan scanner and
common sense I don't think that this is likely- and to prevent java scripts
and activeX controls to be downloaded and run on my computer).



I've found that the new version of Kerio (4.0.13) is very good but Outpost
has the best record against most of the firewall tests that are available.
They both take up an equal amount of resources (about 15,000). As to Tiny-
it is a pain to set up. The former 2 already have very good pre-configured
rules so personally I don't see any point in using it.

harry wong