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Hello.

I am interested in finding out about stealthy security software that
you can install on your computer. The type you can use to track and
trace your computer if it is stolen, which can not be detected by
anti-spyware programs.

Firstly I just wondered if there is any software that doesn't send the
tracking information centrally to any security companies, but instead
allows you to access the internet by other means and find out where it
is located from emails sent etc?

Finally, how much does this type of software cost do you know, and
which ones would you recommend?

Thanks very much for any help

John

There ain't no such animal to my knowledge. Think about it ...If I was
to steal your machine, the first thing I would do is format the drive
and start over!

John wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I am interested in finding out about stealthy security software that
> you can install on your computer. The type you can use to track and
> trace your computer if it is stolen, which can not be detected by
> anti-spyware programs.
>
> Firstly I just wondered if there is any software that doesn't send the
> tracking information centrally to any security companies, but instead
> allows you to access the internet by other means and find out where it
> is located from emails sent etc?
>
> Finally, how much does this type of software cost do you know, and
> which ones would you recommend?
>
> Thanks very much for any help
>
> John

There is such a thing.
ComputracePlus
http://www.computrace.com/
Computrace is one of the most professional tracking programs on the market.
The program contacts a monitoring point over the internet once per day and
more often if reported stolen. According to the company, Computrace can
"survive a re-format, F disk command and hard drive re-partitioning". It
will not be protected if the hard drive is physically removed your computer.
Communication between your laptop and the Monitoring Center is encrypted.
The company has a load of testimonials and success stories on it's website.
It claims to recover 95% of the stolen computers using ComputracePlus who
contact. IBM is a reseller. 1/3 of the Fortune 50 companies are customers.
Requirements:



"Wizard" <> wrote in message
news:...
> There ain't no such animal to my knowledge. Think about it ...If I was
> to steal your machine, the first thing I would do is format the drive
> and start over!
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I am interested in finding out about stealthy security software that
> > you can install on your computer. The type you can use to track and
> > trace your computer if it is stolen, which can not be detected by
> > anti-spyware programs.
> >
> > Firstly I just wondered if there is any software that doesn't send the
> > tracking information centrally to any security companies, but instead
> > allows you to access the internet by other means and find out where it
> > is located from emails sent etc?
> >
> > Finally, how much does this type of software cost do you know, and
> > which ones would you recommend?
> >
> > Thanks very much for any help
> >
> > John

If someone is to steal a machine, they would first format the drive and
start over. There is no point. You should see if it is possible to have
your name and address burned in to the firmware of the machine. But, this
would also be erasable by someone who knows what they are doing.

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"John" <> wrote in message
news:...
Hello.

I am interested in finding out about stealthy security software that
you can install on your computer. The type you can use to track and
trace your computer if it is stolen, which can not be detected by
anti-spyware programs.

Firstly I just wondered if there is any software that doesn't send the
tracking information centrally to any security companies, but instead
allows you to access the internet by other means and find out where it
is located from emails sent etc?

Finally, how much does this type of software cost do you know, and
which ones would you recommend?

Thanks very much for any help

John

Michael-NC wrote:

> There is such a thing.
> ComputracePlus
> http://www.computrace.com/
> Computrace is one of the most professional tracking programs on the market.
> The program contacts a monitoring point over the internet once per day and
> more often if reported stolen. According to the company, Computrace can
> "survive a re-format, F disk command and hard drive re-partitioning".

Perhaps if the stock MS tools are used, then perhaps. But I'm sure it
will go bye-bye if you zero the drive with a linux boot disk or by using
one of various utilities to do the same.


-WD

"Will Dormann" <> wrote in message
news:4Vn0c.1333$...
> Michael-NC wrote:
>
> > There is such a thing.
> > ComputracePlus
> > http://www.computrace.com/
> > Computrace is one of the most professional tracking programs on the
market.
> > The program contacts a monitoring point over the internet once per day
and
> > more often if reported stolen. According to the company, Computrace can
> > "survive a re-format, F disk command and hard drive re-partitioning".
>
> Perhaps if the stock MS tools are used, then perhaps. But I'm sure it
> will go bye-bye if you zero the drive with a linux boot disk or by using
> one of various utilities to do the same.
>
>
> -WD

Most miscreants who steal computers, aren't that smart. Hence the high
recovery rate recorded by the company and IBM involved as a reseller.


Nothing but death amd taxes is absolute.

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:38:40 -0500, "Jerry G." <>,
whilst in the alt.computer.security newsfroup, articulated the following
sentiments :

>If someone is to steal a machine, they would first format the drive and
>start over. There is no point. You should see if it is possible to have
>your name and address burned in to the firmware of the machine. But, this
>would also be erasable by someone who knows what they are doing.

I think before they formatted the drive, they'd see what they could get out
of it first, in terms of personal information and any other 'goodies'.

Connecting the stolen computer straight up to the Net wouldn't be a wise
idea, but as was previously mentioned, the scum who do steal in most cases
aren't that bright.

Does anyone still use those 'invisible-ink' marker pens ? Perhaps a name and
postcode written on the inside of the case somewhere ? Or on a chip ?

Regs, Pete.

Never anthropomorphize computers. They don't like it.

Will Dormann wrote:
> Michael-NC wrote:
>
>> There is such a thing.
>> ComputracePlus
>> http://www.computrace.com/
>> Computrace is one of the most professional tracking programs on the
>> market. The program contacts a monitoring point over the internet
>> once per day and more often if reported stolen. According to the
>> company, Computrace can "survive a re-format, F disk command and
>> hard drive re-partitioning".
>
> Perhaps if the stock MS tools are used, then perhaps. But I'm sure
> it will go bye-bye if you zero the drive with a linux boot disk or by
> using one of various utilities to do the same.
>
>
> -WD

What's the most expensive part(s) of a PC - not the HDD. Motherboard, CPU,
Video card?

Maybe the thief would dump the HDD rather than go to the trouble of
deleting, formatting, etc

Clive

In article <Mht0c.5460$>,
says...
> What's the most expensive part(s) of a PC - not the HDD. Motherboard, CPU,
> Video card?
>
> Maybe the thief would dump the HDD rather than go to the trouble of
> deleting, formatting, etc

I know a chap that just had two laptops stolen from his office last
week. They were new Dell's and cost about $4500 each. They wanted to
know if there was any way to recover them or track them - sadly I said
NO.

If I was a thief I would sell them to the next person I could, not even
turning them on. If I was technical, I would boot from CD, wipe the
system, and then go to a pawn shop to sell them....

Unless you install a secret GPS system in the unit that does not need
the HD or OS, then you can not recover them.


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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:15:15 GMT, Leythos <> wrote:

>In article <Mht0c.5460$>,
> says...
>> What's the most expensive part(s) of a PC - not the HDD. Motherboard, CPU,
>> Video card?
>>
>> Maybe the thief would dump the HDD rather than go to the trouble of
>> deleting, formatting, etc
>
>I know a chap that just had two laptops stolen from his office last
>week. They were new Dell's and cost about $4500 each. They wanted to
>know if there was any way to recover them or track them - sadly I said
>NO.
>
>If I was a thief I would sell them to the next person I could, not even
>turning them on. If I was technical, I would boot from CD, wipe the
>system, and then go to a pawn shop to sell them....
>
>Unless you install a secret GPS system in the unit that does not need
>the HD or OS, then you can not recover them.

Hum, interesting. Would you even need GPS though? Are there not any
other devices that are cheaper that you could use to track it?
Perhaps some sort of small bug that you put inside the machine that
has a battery and is connected to the computer power supply to keep it
topped up? The type of bug law enforcement use to track vehicles, or
conservation people use to track animals? Do all these use GPS? I'm
sure some don't? There must be a cheaper method.

John