Sygate

Hey, can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
the free version of Sygate Firewall?

So far, I like it. Much easier to use for a non-"hacker"
than Kerio (which is an excellent product). It works, too.
They both build rules with you, which I really like. I find
Sygate easier to understand, configure, and it handles
really well. The integrated backtrace and whois functions
work seamlessly, too. This is a major advantage because it
really helps to know who was knocking at your door. Just
today, I found that it was my very own (wonderful) ISP, so I
quickly set up a rule to pass that traffic. Marvelous.

I think that I'd pay these guys for their product if their
phone support policy wasn't so outrageous.

Richard

Richard Steinfeld

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:40:15 GMT, "Richard Steinfeld"
<> wrote:

>Hey, can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
>the free version of Sygate Firewall?
>
>So far, I like it. Much easier to use for a non-"hacker"
>than Kerio (which is an excellent product). It works, too.
>They both build rules with you, which I really like. I find
>Sygate easier to understand, configure, and it handles
>really well. The integrated backtrace and whois functions
>work seamlessly, too. This is a major advantage because it
>really helps to know who was knocking at your door. Just
>today, I found that it was my very own (wonderful) ISP, so I
>quickly set up a rule to pass that traffic. Marvelous.
>
>I think that I'd pay these guys for their product if their
>phone support policy wasn't so outrageous.
>
>Richard

I gave sygate a 6 month try and except for one annoying thing, i
really liked it. I will go back if and when this one issue is
resolved. The problem i ran into was that it sometimes took as much as
30 seconds once logged into windows to receive an IP from my cable/dsl
router. There was a definite delay before networking was fully
enabled.

I switched back to Kerio 2.1.5 (which i have been using for a long
time) and the problem went away. On the next release of SPF I will
give it another shot.

> I gave sygate a 6 month try and except for one annoying
thing, i
> really liked it. I will go back if and when this one issue
is
> resolved. The problem i ran into was that it sometimes
took as much as
> 30 seconds once logged into windows to receive an IP from
my cable/dsl
> router. There was a definite delay before networking was
fully
> enabled.
>

What's an "IP?"
I'm not using networking and I haven't experienced this
delay, I think.

Richard

> I switched back to Kerio 2.1.5 (which i have been using
for a long
> time) and the problem went away. On the next release of
SPF I will
> give it another shot.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:40:15 GMT, "Richard Steinfeld"
<> wrote:

>Hey, can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
>the free version of Sygate Firewall?

I've never had a problem with it. Worked right out of the box. Liked
it so much I bought the pro version.


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"Richard Steinfeld" <> wrote in
news:wyKQb.10674$:

> What's an "IP?"
> I'm not using networking and I haven't experienced this
> delay, I think.

*sigh*

You're advocating one firewall over another in here and you don't even know
what an IP is.

Go back to kindergarten.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 07:49:48 GMT, "Richard Steinfeld"
<> wrote:

>> I gave sygate a 6 month try and except for one annoying
>thing, i
>> really liked it. I will go back if and when this one issue
>is
>> resolved. The problem i ran into was that it sometimes
>took as much as
>> 30 seconds once logged into windows to receive an IP from
>my cable/dsl
>> router. There was a definite delay before networking was
>fully
>> enabled.
>>
>
>What's an "IP?"
>I'm not using networking and I haven't experienced this
>delay, I think.
>
>Richard
>
>> I switched back to Kerio 2.1.5 (which i have been using
>for a long
>> time) and the problem went away. On the next release of
>SPF I will
>> give it another shot.

IP as in IP address from my DHCP Server. If you are not using
networking why do you want a personal firewall?

"donutbandit" <> wrote in message
news:bv12h2$jn4$...
> "Richard Steinfeld" <> wrote
in
> news:wyKQb.10674$:
>
> > What's an "IP?"
> > I'm not using networking and I haven't experienced this
> > delay, I think.
>
> *sigh*
>
> You're advocating one firewall over another in here and
you don't even know
> what an IP is.
>

*sigh*
Dear donut,
I asked for an explanation, not a put-down.
I am well-versed in software usability and have worked in
that capacity.
Sygate's usability is very well crafted. If I advocated
anything, that's where they hit the bullseye. Can you do as
well?

You have demonstrated your superiority, thank you.
Unfortunately, in proving your status, you did not answer
the question. One may be able to evaluate performace through
experience without being in on all the lingo, especially the
jargon. For example, I probably know the functions of which
you speak and which I ask, perhaps under other names,
perhaps their proper designations. Usability expertise is
something that most programmers are sorely lacking.

> Go back to kindergarten.

Perhaps, sir donut, you might benefit from spending some
time in charm school.

Richard

Richard Steinfeld wrote:
> "donutbandit" <> wrote in message
> news:bv12h2$jn4$...
>
>>"Richard Steinfeld" <> wrote
>
> in
>
>>news:wyKQb.10674$:
>>
>>
>>>What's an "IP?"
>>>I'm not using networking and I haven't experienced this
>>>delay, I think.
>>
>>*sigh*
>>
>>You're advocating one firewall over another in here and
>
> you don't even know
>
>>what an IP is.
>>
>
>
> *sigh*
> Dear donut,
> I asked for an explanation, not a put-down.
> I am well-versed in software usability and have worked in
> that capacity.
> Sygate's usability is very well crafted. If I advocated
> anything, that's where they hit the bullseye. Can you do as
> well?
>
> You have demonstrated your superiority, thank you.
> Unfortunately, in proving your status, you did not answer
> the question. One may be able to evaluate performace through
> experience without being in on all the lingo, especially the
> jargon. For example, I probably know the functions of which
> you speak and which I ask, perhaps under other names,
> perhaps their proper designations. Usability expertise is
> something that most programmers are sorely lacking.
>
>
>>Go back to kindergarten.
>
>
> Perhaps, sir donut, you might benefit from spending some
> time in charm school.
>
> Richard
>

Hear, hear.

Just because Richard might not know what an IP address is doesn't mean
he can't ask "can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
the free version of Sygate Firewall?" and give his opinion on how he has
found it so far.

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 04:41:32 +0000, Ben Measures
<> wrote:

>Just because Richard might not know what an IP address is doesn't mean
>he can't ask "can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
>the free version of Sygate Firewall?" and give his opinion on how he has
>found it so far.

However, if someone does not know what an IP address is it is
their opinions on networking software are not worth much and its
a reflection of GROSS stupidity and arrogance to say it.
--
Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com

"> Hey, can anyone aside from me give their experiences with
> the free version of Sygate Firewall?
>

I love the SPF product but it has a very big hole.
If you use a proxy ( like Proxomitron ) and whatever programm uses that
proxygate SPF won't log it.
The programms using your proxy just jumps in and out in your SPF running
application screen and SPF also didn't append that programm to the
application list. Because of this lack of logging it's possible for every
virus/programm/trojan to have unseen access to the internet.
Every programm using your proxy is save according to SPF. No Sygate!!, every
programm that want access to the internet has to be granted. Sygate knows
this problem for over a year but it hasn't there attention.
I don't know if this SPF proxy problem is a Sygate problem or a universal
firewall problem.
Another problem I have encountered is the blocking possibilities of SPF.
Even if I had blocked a programm it seems to communicate with the internet.
If I want to block a programm, let's say svshost.exe, it has to be
possible. It's up to me if I block a programm to see the effects and not to
SPF to bypass the blocked programm.
Or is it : It isn't a bug but a feature. Well, if it is a feature I don't
like it.