IP Masking

Hi all, I need to mask my IP the the internet world (this includes gaming)
and would like to know if anyone has a bulletproof way of soing so?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks.....

StrykeR

In article <400874fa$0$4050$>,
says...
> Hi all, I need to mask my IP the the internet world (this includes gaming)
> and would like to know if anyone has a bulletproof way of soing so?
>
> Any help would be appreciated
>
> Thanks.....
>
>
>
>


As far as I know, there's no way to do proxying for gaming..... any
proxy service that allows this for gaming is either 1) dumb as a box of
rocks or 2) charging a fortune for their accounts because the bandwidth
use would be astronomical.



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Q: How many Bill Gates does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None, he just defines Darkness? as the new industry standard..."

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:34:16 +1000, whilst in NewsFroup
alt.computer.security, "StrykeR" <> articulated
the following sentiments :

>Hi all, I need to mask my IP the the internet world (this includes gaming)
>and would like to know if anyone has a bulletproof way of soing so?
>
>Any help would be appreciated
>
>Thanks.....
>
>

For god's sake why ?

Some device, somewhere, has to know your IP address or you're not going to
connect to anything. Why not just learn more about the OS you're using,
disable any unnecessary services, and use some kind of firewall as another
layer of protection.

Someone here will probably tell you about proxy servers and similar, but I
can't see how they can function without slowing down your connection.
Probably the last thing you want for games. Ping 999, heh, you're toast !

I don't think the gaming community would thrive as it does without access to
other people's IP addresses. Most of them don't give a **** about 'cracking'
someone's PC, they just want to play the damn game. In my experience, issues
of 'cheating' on games using modified add-ons are more prevalent than
stories of someone's game server or client getting cracked into.

To put my money where my mouth is, here's my IP address :

81.103.136.174 (sorry, my UT2003 server is down for repairs, back soon !)

If someone succeeds in knocking me off the Internet now because of this top
secret 'disclosure', that's hardly a show of skill, as they've just toppled
an enthusiastic home user. Wow ... that'll make someone a legendary haxor !

Egggrds,

Pete.

Pete, it looks like many neophite's are being brain washed by the tech
media outlets about computer security and all the threats it poses. i
recently read the FBI summary report on computer security trends of 2003,
over 95% of breachs were related to internal security breachs. disgruntled
employees, people giving out user name & passwords to the wrong people.,
.... e.t.c....

The education of computer users in the workplace really needs to be looked
at and the whole thing needs to be addressed. i am a system admin. you will
not believe how many users constantly keep offering me their user name &
password, over & over & over again... to their email accounts,to the
network, databases...i don't even make any indications that i need it or
even am asking for it and they just go right out of their way to give it to
me, write it down on a yellow sticky and dump it in my hand.

i have given up trying to educate. people just dont give a ****! all they
do care about is that they can access file's, print, read their email and
download mp3's on company time. and if you do try to educate, they look at
you like you are crazy.


Pete <> wrote in
news::

> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:34:16 +1000, whilst in NewsFroup
> alt.computer.security, "StrykeR" <>
> articulated the following sentiments :
>
>>Hi all, I need to mask my IP the the internet world (this includes
>>gaming) and would like to know if anyone has a bulletproof way of
>>soing so?
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated

>>Thanks.....
>>
>>
>
> For god's sake why ?
>
> Some device, somewhere, has to know your IP address or you're not
> going to connect to anything. Why not just learn more about the OS
> you're using, disable any unnecessary services, and use some kind of
> firewall as another layer of protection.
>
> Someone here will probably tell you about proxy servers and similar,
> but I can't see how they can function without slowing down your
> connection. Probably the last thing you want for games. Ping 999, heh,
> you're toast !
>
> I don't think the gaming community would thrive as it does without
> access to other people's IP addresses. Most of them don't give a ****
> about 'cracking' someone's PC, they just want to play the damn game.
> In my experience, issues of 'cheating' on games using modified add-ons
> are more prevalent than stories of someone's game server or client
> getting cracked into.
>
> To put my money where my mouth is, here's my IP address :
>
> 81.103.136.174 (sorry, my UT2003 server is down for repairs, back
> soon !)
>
> If someone succeeds in knocking me off the Internet now because of
> this top secret 'disclosure', that's hardly a show of skill, as
> they've just toppled an enthusiastic home user. Wow ... that'll make
> someone a legendary haxor !
>
> Egggrds,
>
> Pete.
>



--
Rowdy Yates
I am Against-TCPA
http://www.againsttcpa.com

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:43:38 GMT, whilst in NewsFroup alt.computer.security,
Rowdy Yates <> articulated the following
sentiments :

>Pete, it looks like many neophite's are being brain washed by the tech
>media outlets about computer security and all the threats it poses. i
>recently read the FBI summary report on computer security trends of 2003,
>over 95% of breachs were related to internal security breachs. disgruntled
>employees, people giving out user name & passwords to the wrong people.,
>... e.t.c....
>
>The education of computer users in the workplace really needs to be looked
>at and the whole thing needs to be addressed. i am a system admin. you will
>not believe how many users constantly keep offering me their user name &
>password, over & over & over again... to their email accounts,to the
>network, databases...i don't even make any indications that i need it or
>even am asking for it and they just go right out of their way to give it to
>me, write it down on a yellow sticky and dump it in my hand.
>
>i have given up trying to educate. people just dont give a ****! all they
>do care about is that they can access file's, print, read their email and
>download mp3's on company time. and if you do try to educate, they look at
>you like you are crazy.

I know the feeling, and I'm just a home user. Going to risk giving away some
troll-bait here now, but do you find you get a 'tired' look from someone,
the minute you try to explain and possibly debunk, to the best of your
knowledge, many of the myths and FUD-splats perpetrated by the media ? It's
as though they're thinking, "oh no, here comes some more dry techy bumpf,
it's going to be too hard to understand, so I'll not even bother trying.
Anyway, 'Which-PC-Hyper-Gaming-Technique-Internet-Advisory-Shopper-Daily'
magazine says otherwise ". Guess who they believe ... :/

I often make the mistake of assuming people use their computer/s as much as
I do, and for similar reasons. Like you say, a lot of people just want to
play mp3's, get the email postcard (with stationery !) from their mates, and
check out porn sites.

A login password ? That just slows everything down ! :/

Damn, how can I remember six alphanumeric characters that bear no
resemblance to a dictionary word ? I'll just write '12345' down and stick it
on the monitor. :/

Although it doesn't happen quite so often now, whenever people realised I
had Internet access, a wry smile would form on their face, and they'd say
"heh .. oh yeah <wink wink>". Yes ! There's porn on the Internet ! Yes !
There's porn in your newsagent ! What is the difference ? The 'News At Ten'
isn't a reliable source of information regarding the Internet in general you
know ? Guess who they believe ... :/

Rambling again, apologies. In an attempt to swerve back on-topic, I'll just
end with the suggestion that every new computer sold should have a free,
permanent subscription to alt.computer.security. It's better than TV and
duct tape combined ! ;p

Eggderas,

Pete.

well, here's the thing. malicious users can be broken down into 2 groups.
the group that know what they are doing and the group that dont.

in my opinion, a guy that has the technical "know how" to create his own
programs that manupuilate ip headers (i.e. craft packets) and has
malicious intent - you ain't got a chance in hell of stopping. and don't
bother trying to get into his world, unless you are prepared to crack
open a lot of geek text & manuals.

a up to date AV + firewall + NAT router will do just fine protecting you
from most of the stuff out there. if someone as descripbed above has
targeted you, just make sure you have regular half decent backups and re-
create your system.

just my 2 cents.

Pete <> wrote in
news::

> On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:43:38 GMT, whilst in NewsFroup
> alt.computer.security, Rowdy Yates <>
> articulated the following sentiments :
>
>>Pete, it looks like many neophite's are being brain washed by the tech
>>media outlets about computer security and all the threats it poses. i
>>recently read the FBI summary report on computer security trends of
>>2003, over 95% of breachs were related to internal security breachs.
>>disgruntled employees, people giving out user name & passwords to the
>>wrong people., ... e.t.c....
>>
>>The education of computer users in the workplace really needs to be
>>looked at and the whole thing needs to be addressed. i am a system
>>admin. you will not believe how many users constantly keep offering me
>>their user name & password, over & over & over again... to their email
>>accounts,to the network, databases...i don't even make any
>>indications that i need it or even am asking for it and they just go
>>right out of their way to give it to me, write it down on a yellow
>>sticky and dump it in my hand.
>>
>>i have given up trying to educate. people just dont give a ****! all
>>they do care about is that they can access file's, print, read their
>>email and download mp3's on company time. and if you do try to
>>educate, they look at you like you are crazy.
>
> I know the feeling, and I'm just a home user. Going to risk giving
> away some troll-bait here now, but do you find you get a 'tired' look
> from someone, the minute you try to explain and possibly debunk, to
> the best of your knowledge, many of the myths and FUD-splats
> perpetrated by the media ? It's as though they're thinking, "oh no,
> here comes some more dry techy bumpf, it's going to be too hard to
> understand, so I'll not even bother trying. Anyway,
> 'Which-PC-Hyper-Gaming-Technique-Internet-Advisory-Shopper-Daily'
> magazine says otherwise ". Guess who they believe ... :/
>
> I often make the mistake of assuming people use their computer/s as
> much as I do, and for similar reasons. Like you say, a lot of people
> just want to play mp3's, get the email postcard (with stationery !)
> from their mates, and check out porn sites.
>
> A login password ? That just slows everything down ! :/
>
> Damn, how can I remember six alphanumeric characters that bear no
> resemblance to a dictionary word ? I'll just write '12345' down and
> stick it on the monitor. :/
>
> Although it doesn't happen quite so often now, whenever people
> realised I had Internet access, a wry smile would form on their face,
> and they'd say "heh .. oh yeah <wink wink>". Yes ! There's porn on the
> Internet ! Yes ! There's porn in your newsagent ! What is the
> difference ? The 'News At Ten' isn't a reliable source of information
> regarding the Internet in general you know ? Guess who they believe
> ... :/
>
> Rambling again, apologies. In an attempt to swerve back on-topic, I'll
> just end with the suggestion that every new computer sold should have
> a free, permanent subscription to alt.computer.security. It's better
> than TV and duct tape combined ! ;p
>
> Eggderas,
>
> Pete.
>
>
>
>
>
>



--
Rowdy Yates
I am Against-TCPA
http://www.againsttcpa.com

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:38:29 GMT, whilst in NewsFroup alt.computer.security,
Rowdy Yates <> articulated the following
sentiments :

>a up to date AV + firewall + NAT router will do just fine protecting you
>from most of the stuff out there. if someone as descripbed above has
>targeted you, just make sure you have regular half decent backups and re-
>create your system.

That's what I have. As well as the hope that I'm not significant enough to
warrant an attack by those who really know what they're doing.

egRddas,

Pete.

In article <>,
ldomain says...

>
> Although it doesn't happen quite so often now, whenever people realised I
> had Internet access, a wry smile would form on their face, and they'd say
> "heh .. oh yeah <wink wink>". Yes ! There's porn on the Internet ! Yes !
> There's porn in your newsagent ! What is the difference ? The 'News At Ten'
> isn't a reliable source of information regarding the Internet in general you
> know ? Guess who they believe ... :/

Once you've been in it long enough and have "established yourself" in
the minds of folks, they'll finally turn to you and ask: "...is that the
way it *really* is?"



--
Colonel Flagg
http://www.internetwarzone.org/

Privacy at a click:
http://www.cotse.net

Q: How many Bill Gates does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None, he just defines Darkness? as the new industry standard..."

"...I see stupid people."

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 10:36:08 -0500, whilst in NewsFroup
alt.computer.security, Colonel Flagg
<> articulated the following
sentiments :

>In article <>,
> says...
>
>>
>> Although it doesn't happen quite so often now, whenever people realised I
>> had Internet access, a wry smile would form on their face, and they'd say
>> "heh .. oh yeah <wink wink>". Yes ! There's porn on the Internet ! Yes !
>> There's porn in your newsagent ! What is the difference ? The 'News At Ten'
>> isn't a reliable source of information regarding the Internet in general you
>> know ? Guess who they believe ... :/
>
>Once you've been in it long enough and have "established yourself" in
>the minds of folks, they'll finally turn to you and ask: "...is that the
>way it *really* is?"

I can appreciate that.

Sod's Law again.

Egardse,

Pete.