OT: "Most Popular" websites

I got a question, and if I don't get the proper anser, then it's a gripe.
Anyway, I was just scrolling through my RSS feeds, and there's one that got
me thinking: "MySpace gains top ranking of US Web sites". Now, it's not that
MySpace is popular - that's not what concerns me. What concerns me is how
they got this ranking. Does that mean that they counted a hit (or visit,
depending on how they're counting) for everyone that visited the myspace.com
domain? Or only people that stayed for more than 10 seconds or so? Because,
what I can't figure out is how msn.com isn't the most popular website year
after year. Every copy of IE ships with msn.com (or a redirector to it) as
the default home page. That means every time someone with IE fires up their
browser, msn.com gets hit. Sure, it might not be a unique visitor, but
that's my thinking anyway. And yeah, people change their home page all the
time. But it's been my experience that most people eithe rdon't know how or
are too lazy to do it (I myself can admit to still having msn as my home
page on my work machine [where there are no GPOs preventing this] and on one
machine at home).

So, anyone got an answer for me? Or is MySpace (and every other "most
popular" website ever listed really that much more popular than MSN?

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:37:08 -0400, Briscobar cast into the ether:

> So, anyone got an answer for me? Or is MySpace (and every other "most
> popular" website ever listed really that much more popular than MSN?

Probly has more to do with the fact that a lot of folks have canned IE and
are useing Firefox some other browser, so they don't have the msn home
page. Look at the sekrit site's stats. less than 20% of the hits identify
as IE, as oppsed to nearly 25% Nutscrape and it's clones. IE has lost
hugely in share in recent years.

By the way, if you look at the OS stats, 76% identify as "unknown"

WTF is that?

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> Probly has more to do with the fact that a lot of folks have canned IE and
> are useing Firefox some other browser, so they don't have the msn home
> page. Look at the sekrit site's stats. less than 20% of the hits identify
> as IE, as oppsed to nearly 25% Nutscrape and it's clones. IE has lost
> hugely in share in recent years.

I've been using Firefox for about six months, and I think it's generally
great. BUT, after about four hours of use on my laptop it appears to be
using about 160mb!!! If I close a few tabs, the memory usage doesn't go
down. Sigh.

JaR <> rambled:
>
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:37:08 -0400, Briscobar cast into the ether:
>
>> So, anyone got an answer for me? Or is MySpace (and every other "most
>> popular" website ever listed really that much more popular than MSN?
>
> Probly has more to do with the fact that a lot of folks have canned
> IE and are useing Firefox some other browser, so they don't have the
> msn home page. Look at the sekrit site's stats. less than 20% of the
> hits identify as IE, as oppsed to nearly 25% Nutscrape and it's
> clones. IE has lost hugely in share in recent years.
>
> By the way, if you look at the OS stats, 76% identify as "unknown"
>
> WTF is that?

That's all well and good, but IE still has the majority of the market share,
and I've never seen msn.com on ANY "most popular" list, even 5 years ago
before Firefox/Mozilla became really popular.

That wasn't the answer I was looking for, so my question has been upgraded
to "gripe." Thanks, JaR.


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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:18:43 -0400, Briscobar cast into the ether:

> to "gripe." Thanks, JaR.

Glad to be of service.

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"JaR" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:37:08 -0400, Briscobar cast into the ether:
>
>> So, anyone got an answer for me? Or is MySpace (and every other "most
>> popular" website ever listed really that much more popular than MSN?
>
> Probly has more to do with the fact that a lot of folks have canned IE and
> are useing Firefox some other browser, so they don't have the msn home
> page. Look at the sekrit site's stats. less than 20% of the hits identify
> as IE, as oppsed to nearly 25% Nutscrape and it's clones. IE has lost
> hugely in share in recent years.
>
> By the way, if you look at the OS stats, 76% identify as "unknown"
>
> WTF is that?
>
> --
> JaR
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> Remove hat to reply
>

76% - 53% robots and 23% misbehaving (possibly prefetching) netscapes?
25% - including prefetches?
2% real netscape visits?


just guessing

Thor

msn.com is not the default home page on all new computers. Buy a Dell or a
Gateway, fer'instance,and you'll see for yourself.

And a lot of folks have canned IE? Have you any idea what 85% market share
means? OK, it's big. 17 out of 20. 340 million out of 400 million.

Sure, Firefox has done good. I'm using it (like many geeks), but keep IE
close by. It's not smart research to look at what geeks use, though.

Oh, and my 88-year-old mother-in-law decided to change her home page to
sensis.com.au. Them users are pretty stupid, but sometimes they can
surprise you.

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"JaR" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:37:08 -0400, Briscobar cast into the ether:
>
>> So, anyone got an answer for me? Or is MySpace (and every other "most
>> popular" website ever listed really that much more popular than MSN?
>
> Probly has more to do with the fact that a lot of folks have canned IE and
> are useing Firefox some other browser, so they don't have the msn home
> page. Look at the sekrit site's stats. less than 20% of the hits identify
> as IE, as oppsed to nearly 25% Nutscrape and it's clones. IE has lost
> hugely in share in recent years.
>
> By the way, if you look at the OS stats, 76% identify as "unknown"
>
> WTF is that?

"JaR" <> wrote in message
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> By the way, if you look at the OS stats, 76% identify as "unknown"
>
> WTF is that?

*Removes hat*
That's where I check it from my AS/400 (oops, I forgot I gotta call it an
iSeries now).

And as far as MySpace goes, you gotta figger on the millions of
teenieboppers hitting it 400000000000 times a day to see if they have any
new friends.

*Replaces hat*

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:30:47 -0500, MitchS cast into the ether:

> And as far as MySpace goes, you gotta figger on the millions of
> teenieboppers hitting it 400000000000 times a day to see if they have any
> new friends.

Bingo. I b'lieve you just nailed it, if they are basing the numbers on
site hits.

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They done a story about myspace on the daily show a few weeks back, the had a
behaviour expert on who nearly blew a fuse when the guy proclaimed that he
had 9200 odd friends and was able to keep in daily contact with them all
using the "send to all" button!!

v v funny. Those damn teenagers, in my day all I had was tetris and a rubix
cube