Is it worthwhile to invest time and money to obtain MCSE ?

If so, which way is most effective on both cost and time. I am/was a
hardware-design geek for longtime (20 years) ... Going back to school is not
my pleasure, I have no choice but making a career change.

It is not a joke, your serious, honest advices are very appreciate. My
umemployment benefit was cut a long time ago... so the Bush's Administration
can claim national unemployment rate is lowest in years .... while my job or
similar was sent to India, China....

Regards

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> umemployment benefit was cut a long time ago... so the Bush's
> Administration
> can claim national unemployment rate is lowest in years .... while my job
> or
> similar was sent to India, China....

That bastard! I'm writing a letter to him right now!

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Mostly Gizzards

=?Utf-8?B?U2ltcGxlUEN1c2Vy?= <>
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> If so, which way is most effective on both cost and time. I am/was a
> hardware-design geek for longtime (20 years) ... Going back to school
> is not my pleasure, I have no choice but making a career change.
>
> It is not a joke, your serious, honest advices are very appreciate. My
> umemployment benefit was cut a long time ago... so the Bush's
> Administration can claim national unemployment rate is lowest in
> years .... while my job or similar was sent to India, China....

I feel your pain.

If you decide you want to get into this misbegotten field, and are
capable of home study, then get yourself a fairly up to date pc with a
couple gigs of RAM, then use VMWare or MS Virtual PC(both freeware now),
get some books and study, build and break network scenarios, take the
tests, and hope to ghod that when you are done you can find a job that
will pay better than $10 per hr.

Honestly, I'd advise getting into something else, like nursing, they
can't outsource nurses.

If you can't stay away from our little electronic friends, self study is
the least expensive way of doing MCSE, next would be going to a community
college or the like. Stay away from the various Cert factories that
promise the moon and a guaranteed job, etc. they are ripoffs. Bootcamps
are useless unless you are already skilled in the software, and just need
a top-off before taking the exams.

Good luck.

Ok, there's my good deed for the week, someone pass me a beer!

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"Mostly Gizzards" <> wrote in news:uw
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> That bastard! I'm writing a letter to him right now!

Due to complaints from the low level staffers at the White House, they are
requesting that all such letters now be written on the following:

http://www.charmin.com/chm_gateway.htm

Please use water soluble ink, one of the secretaries has an allergy and is
getting a rash on her bum.

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"JaR" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?U2ltcGxlUEN1c2Vy?= <>
> wrote in news:96659D06-F22F-4806-9993-:
>
> > If so, which way is most effective on both cost and time. I am/was a
> > hardware-design geek for longtime (20 years) ... Going back to school
> > is not my pleasure, I have no choice but making a career change.
> >
> > It is not a joke, your serious, honest advices are very appreciate. My
> > unemployment benefit was cut a long time ago... so the Bush's
> > Administration can claim national unemployment rate is lowest in
> > years .... while my job or similar was sent to India, China....
>
> I feel your pain.
>
> If you decide you want to get into this misbegotten field, and are
> capable of home study, then get yourself a fairly up to date pc with a
> couple gigs of RAM, then use VMWare or MS Virtual PC(both freeware now),
> get some books and study, build and break network scenarios, take the
> tests, and hope to ghod that when you are done you can find a job that
> will pay better than $10 per hr.
>
> Honestly, I'd advise getting into something else, like nursing, they
> can't outsource nurses.

My interpretation is the MCSE only helps people with IT with experience to
keep their jobs a litle bit longer than non-IT experience folks like me ?
Thank for your feedback.

>
> If you can't stay away from our little electronic friends, self study is
> the least expensive way of doing MCSE, next would be going to a community
> college or the like. Stay away from the various Cert factories that
> promise the moon and a guaranteed job, etc. they are ripoffs. Bootcamps
> are useless unless you are already skilled in the software, and just need
> a top-off before taking the exams.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ok, there's my good deed for the week, someone pass me a beer!
>
> --
> JaR
> MCNGP #22
> Remove hat to reply
> Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.
>

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No s' man... I can't wait until this depression we're in is over with.



I don't think I can tolerate the miles of food and unemployment lines much
longer... All the fat bums... it's so sad...

Jtyc

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> My interpretation is the MCSE only helps people with IT with
> experience to keep their jobs a litle bit longer than non-IT
> experience folks like me ? Thank for your feedback.

Yeah, or get your resume past the filters so you can apply for some entry
level position.

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> Yeah, or get your resume past the filters so you can apply for some entry
> level position.

Which is why all you need on your resume is the phase "Working on MCSE
certifiction". MCSE picked up by the search, ya baby!

Jtyc

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> I don't think I can tolerate the miles of food and unemployment lines
> much longer... All the fat bums... it's so sad...

I heard some Congresscritter on the news just today bellyachin' about
people who say there's inflation.

He said that there was NO inflation in the US economy right now at all!
Because, even though Fuel costs have caused price increased in almost every
area, one of the indicators of inflation, the Wage Index, was FALLING!
That's right, wages are falling in the US, therefore there is no inflation!

What a fsckwit. No, unemployment is being held in check, alright, there's
lotsa jobs at Wal-Mart.

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"Jtyc" <> wrote in news:#X3WyL1iGHA.3816
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> Which is why all you need on your resume is the phase "Working on MCSE
> certifiction". MCSE picked up by the search, ya baby!

Just type "MCSE CCNA CNA etc" over and over again in 1pt font and use it to
underline your header. Works even better.

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